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karenandrews_2000@yahoo
Shane Andrews, convicted of Murder 1991 and sentenced to 23yrs non parole to life.
When sentenced it was by the "Old Law" where remissions were granted for good behaviour served
while in prison, also lock down of the prisons due to strikes by Dept of Corrections Officers.
By this Shane"s parole date was 14 years 8 months served, Parole Board of South Australia denying
release, shown (unreasonable prejudice), yet allow Rapists and VIOLENT Serial NASTY MURDERERS
to gain parole who reoffend, incarcerated, then paroled again to reoffend um what is the matter with
this system, they have NEVER dealt with anyone like Shane Andrews before who HAS NEVER had a
Violent record in all his life before this unfortunate event, NO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE records against
Shane Andrews's name, yet cant get Paroled . GO FIGURE that out im bewildered by it.

The actual crime was a "Crime of Passion", Shane was married for 10 years to a wife who played
around, i know that this behaviour is accepted in societies all round the world (except the Arab States),
but it made my brother a victim, his 3 children victims, and other family members. Yet the wife who
perpertrated the whole event lives free destroying other families (wives and children) with undesirable
behaviour. And, thats not a crime? No wonder South Australia has a high percentage of "One Parent Families".
Children in therapy, and Divorce.
In all the years Shane Andrews has been incarcerated (18years), his ex wife has destroyed a multiple amount of families,
whether by breakdowns of marriage/ or Divorces. This woman testifies "She Fears Shane Andrews" YET still
retains the Family name of "ANDREWS" YET has remarried AND DIVORCED and WILL NOT resume her maiden
name. This is brought into the equation of this discussion for a reason and that reason is this : this woman has an affect on the South Australian Parole Boards decision to deny Shane Andrews's Parole.
Um, something wrong here,would love to hear your opinion on that subject.

Since incarcerated (1991) Shane Andrews has led an exemplary life as a prisoner, Shane has obtained
high degrees with the Queensland University and completed programs within the prison system.
Also has been on good behaviour never threatened or behaved in any violent fashion, Shane is respected
by Correctional Officers and other inmates. (Yatala Labour Prison, Mount Gambier Prison, Port Lincoln
Prison, Pre-Release Centre)

One of the Prison's Port Augusta Prison is a high Security Prison, which is heavily overcrowded and
prisoners are locked down for 23 hours a day. My brother Shane Andrews in all his incarceration has
always in each of the Prison's lived quietly causing no trouble was and has been in high security Yatala
Labour Prison and also Port Augusta many years ago where he Shane Andrews was severely beaten
and hospitalized because of the beatings, to medium security at Port Lincoln Prison where on one
occasion was locked out of for an hour on his own,allowed to walk to the township unguarded,
never a threat to escape.
Low security at Pre- Release Centre where Shane would have 48 hour leaves, travelling on public
transport into the City of Adelaide to my home address in the suburbs, to work at the National Parks,
using chainsaws and axes to fell trees never exhibiting threats or showed any signs of violence, and also
attended the Inglefarm Tafe where Shane was a enrolled student. On No occasion did Mr. Shane Andrews
a convicted Murderer show any violent behaviour or present any threat to the Public of South Australia.

Last Thursday my brother was re located to Port Augusta Prison, high security, on his arrival to that
Prison he was accosted by 9 Correctional Officers who put him in a room ordered him to strip naked where
they presented him Shane Andrews with a hospital smock, humiliating my brother and proceeded to threaten
to beat him if Shane Andrews did not do 3 things that they ordered, they gave my brother Shane Andrews 5
minutes to either agree or get prepared for a inhumane beating by 9 Correctional Officers (all Men).

The South Australian Prison's philosophy " Rehabilitation and Fair treatment and respect, to prepare inmates for
outside life back in the community", um 9 against one is NOT FAIR TREATMENT, well i dont think so, do you
agree that any prisoner deserves that? Or any person?

It would appear that Correctional Officers are not subject to any pyschological tests, or Behaviour Management
Classes to guide them in dealing with people who have "gone off the rails" in life, it appears that the Prisoner
does become a victim of abuse or mistreatment by these people who are there to provide support, to assist
in providing a service to REHABILITATE and to support morally.

We as Human's each have the possibilty to turn bad, within this world we ALL live in with its pressures and stress
financial hardships, Family Breakdowns, Child Abuse, Domestic Violence, its enough to turn any to "Cross the Line",
We ALL become victims of each other sooner or later, but we as Human's always have the hope that the person
who does FALL will be able to regain their status back into the community.

What chance has ANY person got of REHABILITATION within a system that allows (VIOLENT) MISTREATMENT and ABUSE (VIOLENT)whether by physical or mental means.

Shane Andrews deserves to be Paroled, to be able to live his life back in the Community, where the role of being
a Father and Son and Brother and Uncle, and GrandFather can take affect.
Shane Andrews is NOT a threat nor does Shane Andrews exhibit Violent Behaviour, BUT, Shane Andrews and many
other Prisoners are threatened VIOLENCE in a System which is suppose to assist and support REHABILITATON.

Shane Andrews is a VICTIM of an UNJUST SYSTEM, Shane is a VICTIM of marriage and FAMILY BREAKDOWN,
Shane is a VICTIM of a WOMAN, UNJUSTIFIABLE BUT NOT A CRIME, or is it ?
dustup
QUOTE (karenandrews_2000@yahoo @ Oct 27 2008, 10:48 AM) *
Shane Andrews, convicted of Murder 1991 and sentenced to 23yrs non parole to life.
When sentenced it was by the "Old Law" where remissions were granted for good behaviour served
while in prison, also lock down of the prisons due to strikes by Dept of Corrections Officers.
By this Shane"s parole date was 14 years 8 months served, Parole Board of South Australia denying
release, shown (unreasonable prejudice), yet allow Rapists and VIOLENT Serial NASTY MURDERERS
to gain parole who reoffend, incarcerated, then paroled again to reoffend um what is the matter with
this system, they have NEVER dealt with anyone like Shane Andrews before who HAS NEVER had a
Violent record in all his life before this unfortunate event, NO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE records against
Shane Andrews's name, yet cant get Paroled . GO FIGURE that out im bewildered by it.

The actual crime was a "Crime of Passion", Shane was married for 10 years to a wife who played
around, i know that this behaviour is accepted in societies all round the world (except the Arab States),
but it made my brother a victim, his 3 children victims, and other family members. Yet the wife who
perpertrated the whole event lives free destroying other families (wives and children) with undesirable
behaviour. And, thats not a crime? No wonder South Australia has a high percentage of "One Parent Families".
Children in therapy, and Divorce.
In all the years Shane Andrews has been incarcerated (18years), his ex wife has destroyed a multiple amount of families,
whether by breakdowns of marriage/ or Divorces. This woman testifies "She Fears Shane Andrews" YET still
retains the Family name of "ANDREWS" YET has remarried AND DIVORCED and WILL NOT resume her maiden
name. This is brought into the equation of this discussion for a reason and that reason is this : this woman has an affect on the South Australian Parole Boards decision to deny Shane Andrews's Parole.
Um, something wrong here,would love to hear your opinion on that subject.

Since incarcerated (1991) Shane Andrews has led an exemplary life as a prisoner, Shane has obtained
high degrees with the Queensland University and completed programs within the prison system.
Also has been on good behaviour never threatened or behaved in any violent fashion, Shane is respected
by Correctional Officers and other inmates. (Yatala Labour Prison, Mount Gambier Prison, Port Lincoln
Prison, Pre-Release Centre)

One of the Prison's Port Augusta Prison is a high Security Prison, which is heavily overcrowded and
prisoners are locked down for 23 hours a day. My brother Shane Andrews in all his incarceration has
always in each of the Prison's lived quietly causing no trouble was and has been in high security Yatala
Labour Prison and also Port Augusta many years ago where he Shane Andrews was severely beaten
and hospitalized because of the beatings, to medium security at Port Lincoln Prison where on one
occasion was locked out of for an hour on his own,allowed to walk to the township unguarded,
never a threat to escape.
Low security at Pre- Release Centre where Shane would have 48 hour leaves, travelling on public
transport into the City of Adelaide to my home address in the suburbs, to work at the National Parks,
using chainsaws and axes to fell trees never exhibiting threats or showed any signs of violence, and also
attended the Inglefarm Tafe where Shane was a enrolled student. On No occasion did Mr. Shane Andrews
a convicted Murderer show any violent behaviour or present any threat to the Public of South Australia.

Last Thursday my brother was re located to Port Augusta Prison, high security, on his arrival to that
Prison he was accosted by 9 Correctional Officers who put him in a room ordered him to strip naked where
they presented him Shane Andrews with a hospital smock, humiliating my brother and proceeded to threaten
to beat him if Shane Andrews did not do 3 things that they ordered, they gave my brother Shane Andrews 5
minutes to either agree or get prepared for a inhumane beating by 9 Correctional Officers (all Men).

The South Australian Prison's philosophy " Rehabilitation and Fair treatment and respect, to prepare inmates for
outside life back in the community", um 9 against one is NOT FAIR TREATMENT, well i dont think so, do you
agree that any prisoner deserves that? Or any person?

It would appear that Correctional Officers are not subject to any pyschological tests, or Behaviour Management
Classes to guide them in dealing with people who have "gone off the rails" in life, it appears that the Prisoner
does become a victim of abuse or mistreatment by these people who are there to provide support, to assist
in providing a service to REHABILITATE and to support morally.

We as Human's each have the possibilty to turn bad, within this world we ALL live in with its pressures and stress
financial hardships, Family Breakdowns, Child Abuse, Domestic Violence, its enough to turn any to "Cross the Line",
We ALL become victims of each other sooner or later, but we as Human's always have the hope that the person
who does FALL will be able to regain their status back into the community.

What chance has ANY person got of REHABILITATION within a system that allows (VIOLENT) MISTREATMENT and ABUSE (VIOLENT)whether by physical or mental means.

Shane Andrews deserves to be Paroled, to be able to live his life back in the Community, where the role of being
a Father and Son and Brother and Uncle, and GrandFather can take affect.
Shane Andrews is NOT a threat nor does Shane Andrews exhibit Violent Behaviour, BUT, Shane Andrews and many
other Prisoners are threatened VIOLENCE in a System which is suppose to assist and support REHABILITATON.

Shane Andrews is a VICTIM of an UNJUST SYSTEM, Shane is a VICTIM of marriage and FAMILY BREAKDOWN,
Shane is a VICTIM of a WOMAN, UNJUSTIFIABLE BUT NOT A CRIME, or is it ?

Snippet.......
Shane Andrews was convicted in 1991 of the shooting murder of Brian Lyden outside the Aberfoyle Park Primary School. He was sentenced to life in jail with a non-parole period of 23 years.

At that time, under the Correctional Services Act 1982 Andrews and other prisoners were entitled to instant release upon the expiry of their non-parole period, which was discounted further through a remissions system in jail.

In 1994, the Act was amended by the Statutes Amendment (Truth in Sentencing) Act. The law was changed so that now prisoners must apply for release to the Parole Board. Many factors are considered before an inmate with a life sentence can be recommended for release to the Governor. The paramount consideration is public safety.

The Parole Board has ruled three times that Andrews is not fit to be let out, chiefly because he has expressed no contrition and has little insight into the effect of the murder he committed.

Shortly after the Truth in Sentencing Act first took effect, armed robber Edward Ray Summers advanced a very similar argument to that Andrews is now pressing (Summers v Nelson 1994). Supreme Court Justice Bruce Lander rejected his argument and validated the legislation affirming that it applies to all prisoners regardless of the date they were sentenced."
end Snippet......

ministers.sa.gov.au/news.php?id=3469

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Elven_Flight
Shane Andrews deserves everything he got. angry.gif
He's not the only one who was affected by this.
you know Brian Lyden?
How do you think his family's coping with all of this?
Don't you think that it would've hurt them too?
Shane Andrews practically ruined the lives of Brian Lyden's two kids.
I know Brian's son is terrified of what's going to happen when Andrews gets out.
I know Brian's wife is scared, she doesn't know if Andrews is going to try and contact her again, if he blames her for it all because she split up with Brian...
But I'll tell you this.
BRIAN LYDEN NEVER SLEPT WITH SHANE ANDEWS' WIFE.
Trust me. I know these things.
I have my sources.

Shane Andrews will get out of prison eventually.
We all know that.
We all accept that.
Brian Lyden's family accepts that, and they are just as scared as Shane's family.

Andrew's is being treated fairly, just like everyone else.
Don't get so uptight about it.
He's going to be released during the day to work and whatever in Port Augusta or where ever he is.
He gets 'rewards' for good behaviour.
I very much doubt that he was told to get naked and threatened with a violent beating from 9 males.
South Australia is not that corrupted.

Shane's Ex wife changed her name, you daft cow.
She went into hiding, repeatedly.
And she's not the only one who can affect the parole board.
Brian's former wife has power over that too.

Yes. Yes, Shane was let out of the prison and did absolutly nothing but be a good little boy.
Yeah right.
Did you know he rang Brian Lyden's family 16 times?

Well. I've corrected all your stupid mistakes that I can be bothered to.
And I've been oddly polite about it.
So not any more.

Get a life.
Don't talk about shit you don't know about.
I know more then you.
Learn to spell.
Go to school.
Take English.
Figure out proper grammar.
You're constant changing to caps and back annoyed me.
I hope you die.
I want Shane Andrews to rot in prison for what he did to my family.
I want Shane Andrews to die and be eternally tortured in hell for hurting my sister like that.
I think you are a biased bitch.
I know you are a biased bitch.
If I ever find out where you live, I may just say this to you in person.
Be warned, I'm a fairly good stalker, or so I've been told.
You ruined my night.
You pissed me off.
You are going to pay for that.
Get your facts straight before you go off ranting about shit.

Fuck you, fuck off. Go fuck your mom. I hope if I ever see you your hair catches fire and you are slowly put out by a rabies infected dog's piss.

Bye Bye.

PS... FUCK YOU! GET YOUR FUCKING FACTS STRAIGHT!
karenandrews_2000@yahoo
First, in answer to your blatant inability to know true facts, whoever you are Mr. Shane Andrews's ex wife Robyn Louise Andrews who she is known as to this day did have "extra-marital affairs" with Mr. Lyden, but that has already been established if you sighted the Court Transcripts, do a bit of research my friend before you yourself "rant".
Has never gone into hiding, for fear of her life, has always worked in South Australia, has been remarried and recently divorced, reverting back to my brother's name (Andrews),.
Tell me who in their right mind would use a name knowingly, and yet be "Fearful" of the that person?
Expalin that if possible.

No one in the Andrews family is afraid or has any fears of Mr. Shane Andrews or anyone connected show any fear.
Shane Andrews has served his time for his crime, and deserves to be released just like all the others who commit crime."The only thing to fear; is fear itself" Read up on your psychology. Shane Andrews should not cast any "fear" on anyone, and neither would he want to, or intend to.
And just for the record, I and I speak for the Andrews family have never condoned the crime.

Also on NO occasion did I mention anything of your family either indirectly or directly, I am truly sorry for the loss and the pain your family suffers, but i will not tolerate your intimidation and your threatening behaviour towards myself or any of my family because of a innocent petition.

I too and our family have also suffered through this, but, I will fight against an injustice and stand beside any who suffer by it.
Regardless of whether that person is family or not, my fight is not with you, I am not that ignorant to know the pain and suffering your family has gone through because of this and I would not intentionally disrespect or cause any greivance with your family, that is not the intention of this petition.

I will not tolerate as I stated your intimidations or your threats made towards myself or any of my family members through this, which you yourself has stated and this will be copied and handed to the proper authorities and also used in any evidence needed.

To threaten any person with any thing detrimental to a person's well being is an indictable offence in South Australia, the Courts invoke a hefty sentence 12 years to be exact just for a threat, now we wouldnt want that to happen would we, because that would make you just as bad as any who already serves time, and by your last comments you put yourself in that bracket of being a "danger", by your own invidious nature, quite apparent, and your incapability to use reason and logic.
And, any incapacity to control your emotions and to communicate in a adult fashion.

Thankyou for your input it will be taken into consideration, but, it will not stop me from fighting the injustice done, and believe me the truth will be known.

Thanks have a great day and you also my freind "Get a Life" and let it not be how Mr. Shane Andrews got his.

Bye . smile.gif
Elven_Flight
okay... look, i'm sorry...
i said that in the heat of the moment, i do apologise...
i was stating what we had been told, and i was reading inbetween the lines...
we were told all that stuff about his ex wife... i truly am sorry,
i know he's going to get out, i accept that, i think he should get on with his life too, it's just hard... that, and i've been listening to my brother too much.
please, don't take it to the authorities.
i've been thinking about what i said for the past few hours, and i regret it.
i said some harsh things.
i retract all my statements... i'm sorry.
please, just don't take this further.
i was told that she never did anything with brian, but i wouldn't really know, he's no relation of mine, not really.
i was going to delete my comments before, but i'm not sure how, i'm kinda a noob here.
the stalking bit was a joke, i'm not going to do that, besides, i have no idea where anything is street-wise, i get lost just going to grenfell(?) street...
yes, i agree fully, i need a life.
i was reading in between the lines, i am sorry for what i said, really, please, we don't need to take this further... i will retract and delete all my statements... please.
we need to move on... and from what we've heard, Shane may be getting out of prison in the near future.
i honeslty know nothing about his family other then what the police have told us, and you can't how really trust them...
i'm sorry, really. and my last comments were written in a fit of anger.
i'm really truly sorry, i apologise from the bottom of my heart for what i said, what i implied.
i don't know you, i would never come near you, i just want to forget about it and move on... please.
i did rant, i do need to get my facts straight...
i'm a biased bitch, i was angry.... (i get angry easily) and i just exploded. i'm sorry for it.
i apologise deeply for everything your family has had to go through over this... it's been 18 years now... surely we can all move on and stop dwelling on it, i have told my family that repeatedly...
i have felt bad for everything i said since about 10 minutes after i posted it, and if i knew how to delete i would.
please, you have my every apology, i am an idiot, i know... can we not take this further?
i'm just a teenager... i have issues, i have my ups and downs... i just lost control today. i'm sorry. i did not mean to be threatening in anyway.
i strongly oppose violence, i do also believe in justice, and i will fight for what i believe in... honestly, i don't believe in any of this, it's not high up on my priorities list, who am i to care if he's in jail or not. it happened, it's in the past, it doesn't really effect me, i'm sorry for every word i said. i just get angry sometimes over things that hurt my sister, but i didn't mean to take that anger out on you or your family. i'm going to stick to running for that from now on, it's what i've always done, i just snapped. i lost control for a moment, i feel disgusted with myself for what i said. i'm sorry.
please. i'll delete all my previous statements for you after this, and i will never contact you or your family in any way... just please, can we not take this further? i beg of you.
i'm just a kid who needs to learn when to keep her mouth shut and her foolish opinions to herself.
i apologise once again.
please, please. don't take this to the authorities. i'm an idiot, i'm the bitch, i'm stupid, and i just want to move on and forget about what happened in the past. please.
karenandrews_2000@yahoo
calm down, its ok i know how you must have felt, i'm truly sorry for my brother's actions I really am. their are no words that I could possibly say to take away any of the pain caused by those actions.

I guess the problem is none of us communicated, we all just suffered, silently.

I'm not the enemy ok, I hold out to you and your family the hand of peace and hope that through all of this we all find it within our hearts to forgive and to be better and sronger people because of it.

I too can show compassion, and I too can become angry and say and do things which I regret saying and doing, but we are innocent you and I and we both stand for our families and we say and do things to protect them whether through compassion or anger which should always be understood by the other. And, I totally understand your anger, because through it you showed your compassion.

I wish you and your family All the best, Peace and the greatest gift Love which is the Greatest gift to ever have, because through Love we find forgiveness and Healing and we ALL need that, even Shane.

I send All our Love to your family and hope that with time this all will be put well behind us.

Kindest Regards
Karen Andrews

Elven_Flight
thank you... i extend the same things to you, and i know that Shane deserves forgiveness, and i'm sure it will come with time...

our families have gone through suffering that none should have to.

now, i'm going to make a feeble attempt at humour and sarcasm here... you said that i should read up on my pshycology... i'm not goint to do that, i fail at pshycology, chemistry is more my forte...
well, i just proved that i failed humour too... lol...

i understand how you feel, and your original post shows your compassion, and how you are willing to stand by your brother no matter what... i admire you for that, i doubt if i would be able to stand by my brother if he went to prison, but then, we don't get along that well.

i too send my love towards your family, i still regret my first comments, it was just a spur of the moment heat of the moment thing.

i agree, love of friends and family (that's as far as my definition of love goes) is the most important thing you can have in this world, and yes, Shane does deserve that. You are a wonderful sister to him, standing by him like this.

Yours Truly,
I Still Feel Like An Idiot,
SL.
defence_private
wat he did was wrong
nothing can change that
slander against other ppl is wrong
you can change that
having ur own opinion
nothing can change that
shutting ur mouth
you can change that

i dont feel sorry for anyone in the andrews family.

pte andrews
karenandrews_2000@yahoo
QUOTE (defence_private @ Feb 19 2009, 09:32 AM) *
wat he did was wrong
nothing can change that
slander against other ppl is wrong
you can change that
having ur own opinion
nothing can change that
shutting ur mouth
you can change that

i dont feel sorry for anyone in the andrews family.

pte andrews


We dont need your pity,
But we excuse your ignorance,
And, we won't be shutting our mouths
my friend, Truth always HURTS,...
And the TRUTH will be heard...
TRUTH WINS OUT..........
Lies and Deciet will be brought out
into the light.......Dont be
without your sunglasses friend....
It appears the light may blind you....
cool.gif Have a nice day......
defence_private
u know wat fuck u all i wanted was a normal family but it seems no one cares
so as of now i formally disown my andrews name no longer will it carry on because
my children will never know it existed. u had your chance and im afraid u blew it.

pte. fuck u mother fuckers.

p.s i love my dad but im afraid u fucked it i hope u have fun telling him that it was all ur fault.
defence_private
[quote name='Elven_Flight' date='Jan 7 2009, 01:06 AM' post='2400020']
thank you... i extend the same things to you, and i know that Shane deserves forgiveness, and i'm sure it will come with time...

our families have gone through suffering that none should have to.

now, i'm going to make a feeble attempt at humour and sarcasm here... you said that i should read up on my pshycology... i'm not goint to do that, i fail at pshycology, chemistry is more my forte...
well, i just proved that i failed humour too... lol...

i understand how you feel, and your original post shows your compassion, and how you are willing to stand by your brother no matter what... i admire you for that, i doubt if i would be able to stand by my brother if he went to prison, but then, we don't get along that well.

i too send my love towards your family, i still regret my first comments, it was just a spur of the moment heat of the moment thing.

i agree, love of friends and family (that's as far as my definition of love goes) is the most important thing you can have in this world, and yes, Shane does deserve that. You are a wonderful sister to him, standing by him like this.

Yours Truly,
I Still Feel Like An Idiot,
SL.
[dont pity karen she dosent deserve it choosing to be a fat fucking cow instead of supporting her family the way she really should.oh well. fuck u karen im glad i moved away ur a bad influence i feel sorry for your clildern and there children and anyone u come into contact with because all u do is infect people with ur shit. so again fuck u]
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