Hey there is one problem with the bible. If you know how to add, then you know that when u add up all the geneologies in the gospel of matthew that the age of the earth comes out to about 6000 yrs old from genesis to present day. There is no getting around this, and all the rest of the books of the bible refer to genesis, and so does jesus. If the credibility of genesis was compromised then the entire bible could be compromised. So here is my obective: to use nothing more than grade-school arithmitic and commons sense to prove that the earth is not only 6000 years old (in statement/proof format) 1) Light travels at a constant speed of 299,792,458 meters/second or 186282.4 miles/sec 1) [Assuming that you also believe that the earth is really 93 million miles from the sun at average, earth’s orbit is elliptical*] 93,000,000/ 186282.4= 499.2420111seconds/60seco nds≈ 8.31 minutes, which is the accepted figure for the amount of time it takes for the light from the sun to reach earth 2) 1lightyear= 5.878499911x 10^12 miles 2) 186282.4miles x 60[seconds in a minute]=1176944miles/min; 1176944miles x 60 [minutes/hour]= 670616640miles/hour; 670616640miles x 24 [hours/day]= 1.609479936 x 10^10 miles/day; 1.609479936 x 10^10 miles x 365.242199 [exact days/ year]= 5.878499911x 10^12 miles/ year 3) Deneb is a star visible to the naked eye, using parallax shift [assuming you believe in geometry also] its calculated that the closest distance that star could be is 2,100 light years 3) 5.878499911x10^12 miles/ 2,100 light years= 2,799,285,672 years for that light from Deneb to travel to earth 4) The universe would have to be at least that amount of years old 4) If the universe is only 6000 years old, then we would not be able to see as many of the starts that we are able to with the naked eye; we may only be able to see a few by now, like the ones that are closest to us. If the universe was only 6000 years old the light from most of the stars would still be traveli

I totally agree, what ever happened to the first amendment in the Bill of Rights?

Okay. First of all, I don't believe anyone has contradicted Sarah here, so I'll start off doing that. EVOLUTION DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY! It takes millions of years for anything to evolve, it's not just a few gases blowing together. Also, Darwin was not schizo. He wanted to be a priest when he grew up, and he liked studying earthworms. Then, he discovered evolution. Plus, the Bible is not evidence that Jesus was God, or that God exists. I happen to own a book about wizards. Is this evidence Harry Potter is blasting Dementors around in England? Heh. I made my point without swearing at the sheer idiocy of everyone around me! Yay!

only kids and idiots believe in creation because they still don't have the ability to think and solve problems. The quesiton "How did we come to our existence?" is not for kids, kids haven't learn physics, chemistry, biology, human history, & politics....... All kids know is their parent gave birth to them, and if they don't listen to wat his parent say, they got their ass kicked. Honestly speaking, creation believers couldn't get his brain working at all, they are always thinking inside the box created by we politician and lawyer, who governs the country. Our politician ancestors created this religion things for kids and idiots to believe in, and we automatically attain power over them as we run couple shows "praising" this virutal things we created. It has been working like this throughout history and even today. I recommend you guys donate all your money to church and we will take care of them for you. How did we come to our existence? For kids and idiots, creation. For those who can think with his own brain, Evolution goes. Again, donate all your money to church. Religion has been a highly profitable business for we politician throughout history, and it will be.

Blah: I want you to know that I personally have not thrown out any part of the Bible. If you could, I wouldn't mind seeing the stories that were taken out of it. Please produce the evidence, I would love to se it!

"We also know many things were taken out of the Bible." What are you talking about? This is the inspired word of God now isn't it? As I have stated before: If you believe that the bible is the word of God, and that word is infallible, you can't throw out some of the content just because you don't like them.

Hi Blah! Ok so first off gravity, at least to my knowledge, is no longer a theory it is a law now. Ok now that that is out of the way . . . What other tests are we talking about here? You know to date the earth. If you are talking about using the geologic column . . it doesn't work. I wont go into details about it unless you want to know. Carbon dating is the major method used in dating things. Interesting analogy though I must say I don't agree with it (you probably knew I would say that). A belief in Jesus is just what it sounds like. It is a belief. Also, you are confusing two things: Elvis' body is dead as is Jesus' body. However there spirits are not. At least that is what I believe as do countless others. We as Christians know that there are conflicting stories regarding His life, but we choose to believe in Him anyways. His message is a message of hope and peace. We also know many things were taken out of the Bible. King James of England took stories he didn't like out and kept things he enjoyed (King James Bible). But our belief is in God and His son, not in the Bible. We read it, cherish, and value it because it is God's word, we do not belief that the book is the Savior. It is funny that you should mention Jesus having a daughter and being married, I personally believe this is not true. It is just a theory. Till next time . .

Well as I stated before, the word "theory" doesn't mean, "guess". The earth revolving around the sun is still a theory. Gravity is also a theory. Yes it is true that carbon testing can only date back 60,000 years from now. Even so, that still proves that the earth is more than 6,000 years old. And we have other tests that can date things back even further. Otherwise, how would it be possible for a group of Chicago students to excavate a 70 million year old predatory dinosaur in Wyoming in 2001? Also, how is it possible that we have found human fossils that are 160,000 years old in Africa? Obviously these things wouldn't have happened if tests couldn't date back that far. Before I state things about Jesus, I'm going to state what I have learned about The King. Elvis Aaron Presley died in 1977. He was born and lived at a time when most people in his land were illiterate. Sound familiar? We have many first hand reports about Elvis' life. We have many reliable records: Medical, Musical and otherwise. Even so, there are people, LOTS of people, who insist that Elvis is not really dead. Sound familiar? Even the dozen's of books written by people who knew Elvis contain conflicting stories of his life. Sound familiar? There are people who insist that Elvis didn't take drugs! Sound Familiar? Yeah, that one doesn't to me, either. We have photographs, of Elvis, in the morgue, dead as a freakin doornail and yet in just 25 years, there are stories that he's not dead. In "Fit for a King", an important work delving into the Elvis eating habits, the author suggests that in order to make Elvis' beloved fried chicken you'll need 3/4ths a cup of flour, salt, preprica and pepper. In "Are you Hungry Tonight", a definitive look into Elvis' favorite foods, the king's beloved fried chicken recipe calls for 1/2 cup of

To Blah: First off thank you for not being a cruel angry person like some people are on this site. The way you explained your point of view was more thought evoking than anger provoking. Though the old testament states very clearly that it is wrong to lay with another man, we must remember this is the old testament. In the new testament Jesus never once condemns homosexuality. The earth revolving around the sun is a fact not a theory because we have seen this take place. I know I am jumping around a lot but I have to hurry. sorry. Also Jesus' image has been changed to meet the western civilizations view of him. Never once is He said to have long hair. Why would Paul or John (errr . . .cant remember who) say that it is a sin to have long hair when according to western civilization, Jesus had it? Also the plants and animals you speak of . . . if they are soo old then why is the oldest tree in the world and the oldest reef in the world less than 4500 years old? Carbon testing only works until about 40,000 years by the way so you cannot claim the earth is millions of years old because of Carbon-14 test results. Thanks and hope to discuss more with you about this!

To Sarah: During the past few decades, scientists have had to create stronger antibiotics to fight bacteria because the bacteria are developing stronger resistances to the drugs. That is scientific evidence supporting evolution. Major evolution takes around 20,000 years to occur. Animals and plants both have had enough time to do that due to the fact that scientists have gathered information through carbon testing that the earth is much older than 6,000 years old. It has taken the plants and animals millions of years to get to what they are today. It doesn’t just happen over night. Also evolution does not explain how life was created, but what happens afterwards. Yes evolution is only a theory, but apparently you don’t know what the scientific definition of “theory” is. It does not mean, “guess.” The earth revolving around the sun is a theory also, and is also contradicted by the bible. To Richard: Here is a problem with using the bible to find morals and lessons. What parts of the bible do you use and what parts do you not use? The passage that most creationists site is that a man should not sleep with another man therefore homosexuality is a sin. But if you turn to the next chapter it says that it is ok to stone to death misbehaving children. In Exodus 21:7, it states that it is ok to sell your daughter into slavery. In Exodus 35:2 it states that anyone working for the Sabbath will be put to death. In Corinthian 11:14 it states “Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?” To put it simply, it is a sin for a man to have long hair, yet Jesus had long hair. If you believe that the bible is the word of God, and that word is infallible, you can’t throw out parts of the bible just because you don’t like them.

I refuse to believe that i came from some hairy ape thing. Dairwin was just some crazy schitzo who was trying to find a new thing for everyone to follow so creation wouldn't last, so he came up with the THEORY of evolution. You can look it up anywhere, evolution is not scientifical proven to be true. As for creation, there has to be some great being up there who started it all, you nonbelievers dont honestly belive that a few gases just blew together then poof! We were swinging through trees and drawing weird pictures on the cave walls!?!

The Bible is a great book. Great morals, great lessons, great everything. Sorry that you guys are so against a book that overall stands for peace and love. Dont call me a hippie. Creationism is not a fad, because fads disappear. We will not. Over 2 billion people are Christians in this world. That is a pretty big fad to die away. 10,000 new members to the Christian family a month. What biblical theories were proven wrong? I know many scientific theories that were. Not biblical. If you do not have an argument, why bother posting? It is just your opinion. I am completely ok with your opinion, its just that would for once back it up with something other than a curse word? God bless ya Brianna, I believe in Creation here. Evolution is ridiculous.

Many of the biblical theories have been proven wrong, it's just that Christians keep on coming up with loopholes thanks to their convieniently omnipotent God.

we really do not know enough about the universe to say how it was created as none of us were around to see it. and we don't have enough evidence to say whether there is a god. many of the biblical theories could be proven worng though.

Hey! I have heard of the Bible! I also heard you can buy it at barnes and Noble for 5 bucks, just like every other fictional book out there. Let's all believe EVERYTHING that's written in the Bible, yet COMPLETELY DISREGARD the JEWISH writers' intent- legends and fables to teach their morals and to explain historical events which could not be understood through their modern science. Creationism is one of those historical fads we look back on and laugh at, like thinking the world is flat or that disease could be cured by leeches or that Oswald killed Kennedy alone. However, idiots have taken this silly artifact and desperately kept its futile spirit alive. Thanks to people like you who tout their Creationist "theory" like they're Paul Revere or something keep our society from progressing towards greater scientific breakthrough because YOU'RE STILL CONVINCED it took 6 days to create the world. Thanks. You're an idiot.

Shut up, you cunt.

Jesus sucks cock and so do you. Adam and Eve had babies who fucked each other, then there was a flood, and then Jerry Falwell fucked his mother in an outhouse. Pat Robertson eats my poop, and hail mother Mary while she takes a cock in the butt.

The Bible is a tremendous load of horse jizz, and you're a simpleton and a retard if you believe it because then that means that Adam and Eve had kids that fucked each other and then there was a flood and then Pat Robertson was born. Seriously. Fuck that shit, and fuck you. Also, Mormons are nearly as goddamned stupid as Scientologists. Jerry Falwell can suck my cunt.

I used to be a Christian. Then I read the bible back to front, and realized that it's full of shit. This site helped me to think for myself: www.evilbible.com And I'm not lazy. I know what my purpose is in life, I've developed my own code of morals, and I decide whats good and bad for myself, not some magical sky daddy who kills millions of people in the OT. Seriously, go to www.evilbible.com

HEY! I am the creator of this petition. Creation is real! Have you ever heard of the Bible? Obviously you're to lazy to figure it out!