Though i'm not exactly sure anybody still reads this site, i'm at a loss. Hello, I'm Frank, one of the co founders of bennygohome.com and i have a few questions that perhaps someone here can answer. Our company has no real advertising as of this post and relies on word of mouth and the stickers we put up everywhere we go, which i'm sure is how many other local small companies first begin their foray into professionalism. Lately the other members of my company and i have noticed that one day we'll have one of our stickers posted( at a wawa for example) and then the next day our sticker would be gone and an Illogical sticker would be in it's place. After talking with other local clothing entrepreneurs such as skull boy, we have found that there is a general suspicion that someone is taking down stickers and replacing or in some cases covering the stickers with Illogical stickers. I could understand a desire to make it difficult for one's competitors, but our shirts really don't have the same demographic as Illogical. and more so, Illogical doesn't seem to have an active website so unless they have a storefront no one we've talked to has found- they can't sell merch. Why would someone who isn't threatened in anyway by other clothing companies try to discourage them? What the hell did we ever do to you? Why try to ruin shit for others who actually have a chance at success? If anyone has any info about this please let me know, either by Frank@bennygohome.com, Feedback@bennygohome.com or through our myspace or facebook accounts. This petition is the only lead i've got right now. i can't find any site about steele clothing and Illogical is in a constant state of

I support this petition.

I love how the only hits I get when I search on "Steele Clothing Company" is for this gay ass petition, which just mentions a bunch of he-said, she-said high school drama bullshit. Is SXC a soap opera or an actual company? Seriously, this whole thing cries for grammar class and false trademark claims lawsuits. I mean, seriously... I know some pretty amazing and talented high school kids, and none of them would have the know-how or guts to throw $500 down to register the trademark the phrase "Unofficial Steele Street Team". Maybe I should just single-handedly shut Steele down to simply not have to read this online drama-fest when I'm trying to do research on other, legit businesses.

How about this: both companies are gay. And nobody really cares. So calm down. And stop making a big deal about everything. Why does everything have to be a contest. Just make shirts people will like, friggin' losers. Ballerina lives.

I curbstomp bitches. Illogical whines too much...lame.

I agree with TJ, don't use the petition to flame Illogical or the individuals running it, it's to express your dislike for the reasons stated in the statement. TJ is not a part of the company so let's try and not drag him into it. I have enough respect for the guy to keep him out of this situation when he already said he's washed his hands of it. But on a lighter note the Unoffical Steele Street Team™ and myself thank you all for your support.

pshh threaten MY friends!!

I didnt even know that there was something called Illogical Clothing Company until now...and I think its a gay company name...i dont like them as much as Steele...

Steele rocks faces and has unstoppable micro, it obvious someone is jealous of this. Steele™ "Clothing for the 1337" {NJSK} Provides its full support for Steele clothing.

Someone should of paid me and I'd club whoever I saw wearing the rival's shirts kthnx.

Well ladies and gents, you all got what you want... I have quit Illogical as a whole. I will still be selling hte first print just to get rid of them. After that.. don't worry about Illogical from me. And seeing as I have all the money in Illogical... if chris can't pay for it... it's gone. I bid you all farewell... i hope we can all be cool with eachother one day. -TJ

wow boys do u see what this clothing company controversy has come to....maybe this will make you guys stop acting like girls...

I hate you all

as in both i mean steele and illogical

you guys both suck. i'd rather buy mainstream.

um........... i usually dont talk outloud... and im not gonna start. thanks for the support, it means alot to me.. really.

Thank you for your patience ladys and gentleman. So I walk in to school and I hear this and that about this whole ordeal and this petition. After reading a few things said I would like to add my own actual words to this thing. I figure since It has to do with the company I have half-ownership of. Alright here it goes, and don't worry I WILL use names where applicable... Ok, first I have to say that TJ speaks the truth when it comes to the Illogical Picture at Billy's shindig. He did express his unhappyness with th e fact that "other" people were trying to set-up an Illogical based picture there. I give %100 credit in regards to that to him. I repsectd him for that. Ok on to more important things... Chris Martin is also 120% correct in the fact that the only time our designs had received criticism is to MY face that I KNOW OF, I could be wrong. When it was said to me, He offered his opinion and was optimistic and respectful with how he spoke to me about what could be better. This is something that I will be as honest about as I possibly can... From what I understand and have heard from many different sources is in fact that you, tj, did start this company to spite me and brenden. I can't say this is hard to beleive due to our unhappy history together, and this has nothing to do with "the girl issues".... You have tried to be in competition with many people, more so me, in a lot of areas. I think you know that this is the truth TJ, whether or not you would like to admit it. I have no clue how Martin standed on this, so I won't even bring him into this part. In regards to the Nate conflict that TJ spoke of, that was a simple misunderstanding... Evans used the "because I'm not an outlaw" as a joke when Steele started...It was never intended to start trouble, and since then has been taken care of... The way it was presented here completly blows it out of proportion. The pin was also a joke, we'

HA! Billy scott... That is what I said to cody in Kevins room "This is for billy not illogical, so lets cut the shit and have a good time" -TJ

Lol, I didn’t even know what a petition was until today, or that they even existed. Um…All I have to say on this matter, is I didn’t like how at my party, you all took a huge picture. Granted like, 50% of the people that night that went to the Dane Cook show were wearing Illogical T-shirts, but that night was for me. Its fine to take a picture with a bunch of friends, but, I dunno, I just thought that was kinda rude. Sorry if I sound mean or something. I’m not trying to get in a fight with anyone or anything. Just expressing how I felt that’s all.

Borrlogical, on a light note, please stop hiding behind a fake internet persona and just say who you are. First of all you obviously know nothing about who I am and what I do. The old grudges with me and Cody (to start saying names) has been since squashed and any problem now is not due to a high school bullshit grudge because of a girl. That was almost 2 years ago, I'm sorry but I let it go. As for the 2-step comment in my away message, personally i believe the first amendment is freedom of speach. I for one am all about the old school hardcore, musically and in a show aspect. Never once have I seen a kid survive let alone walk out of a pit after trying too two-step or skank. Never once did I say "Cody Zucker is a homo cuz he 2-steps." for all you know I could be talking about Charlie Kot or Brenden or anyone in the whole world that 2-steps. Spite has nothing to do with this. And by the way, all knowing genious, the pioneer of all this was Outlaw clothing.. hence the "Cuz were not outlaws" under the logo. As for them never talking shit about us... also false, if I may remember, I saw a comment on Cody Zuckers MySpace from one Steele Clothing stating that they are so amazing they don't need to post on people's myspaces i guess it is illogical not to do so. (With strikethrough throught the work illogical. If I'm not mistaken that was an insult to my company as a whole, once agasn after i had already spoken to B and cody about keeping the companies neutral. as for them never saying anything about anyone. How about when Nate threatened to beat cody's face in... I don't suppose nate was doing that for no reason...or the picture of the outlaw with his eyes barred out on a pin... or the kid Ben Steele who is being mocked because he is different and because he happens to have a wheelie bookbag. As for the designs taking 10 second comment, I don't believe anyone was mentioned there... just a plain comment not perta