Adding even "optional" software to what should be considered a critical multimedia plugin like this discredits the plugin, gives it an amateur appearance & makes the technology harder to sell to clients.
Macromedia has betraying the responsibility they have to the people who have invested their time, money, and for many livlihoods on Macromedias technologies. The sad fact of the matter is Macromedia is selling its customers out for a profit due to flashes market saturation
rather than working to better flash and thus please/expand its customer base.
Flash is a great technology - and designing/developing with it is how I pay my bills: please dont **** with my livelihood: I invested in yours, and now its time you invested in mine by trusting that what is best for us (your customers) is, in the end best for you.
It wll create resistance in our client base to our Flash-based training courses. It is hard enough to get them to install the latest version of te player on every PC in a plant.
congratulations on your induction into the world of schemey corporate crap. looks like i'll start working on my after effect skills, you greedy bastards.
The flash plugin is popular not because it is well done, but because of the content being created with it, by developers, who ALREADY PAY MM for the tools to develop with. Now MM is using the success of developer's efforts to turn the plugin into a deployment channel for some other company's unrelated and unrequested crap. It only benefits MM and Y! - it only hurts users and developers. What a poor decision.
I think this is going to backfire and end badly for MM if you keep it.. Please think of your devoted developers and at least make the Yahoo deal opt-in.
longhorn's sparkle is coming and i definitely think it's going to shake MM up, is this a sign that the higher-ups at MM are jumping ship? what do they know that we don't, what is making them cash in their chips and maximize their dollar?
I hope the flash player will always stay as streamlined as possible,and that includes the download process.
Add-ons to the player download must at least be opt-in NOT opt-out. Preferably the reputation of the players would be kept clean all together. Adding toolbars, weather programs, or ANYTHING else to the player downloads is simply a bad business decision.
Users go to download ONE plugin when they only have to. Giving them extra content only confuses the issue. Expecially when it is based on a marketing ploy as opposed to a honest attempt to aid the end user.
This is a stab in the back of developpers, the very same developpers you rely on to generate sales.
MM, remember that behind every website, there is an exec who approved the technological choice of the Flash plugin, and behind that decision, there's a developper who fought and argued for your products.
Now I hope you will provide us with a guide on "How to successfully convince your client on opting for a spyware-enabled plugin".
No Yahoo with Flash - no nothing bundled with plugins from Macromedia. It's bad form which I as a contractor to have to explain that in order for them to use Flash they may be required to install spyware which may or may not do various things on their systems.
This definately undermines my credibility as a developer pushing my company's IT department to 1)Use Flash and 2)Push out the latest version and provide support for home users who need to download the player. We currently have about 8000 employees and our biggest issue tech support wise is helping home users to download the player, configure XP SP2 to allow flash, configuring Norton and other antivirus software to not block Flash (this is often labeled ad-blocking). Adding yahoo toolbar to the Flash Player download further justifies "Ad-blocking" in the users mind, adds to our tech support burden, and undermines the desirability of Flash based applications in the minds of the crumb-bums who make IT decisions.
First of all, from what I’ve read, your only argument about why you’re recommending installing the Yahoo toolbar with the Flash Player is because it’ll help you get player penetration. I’m not sure how this works, but it would appear to me that you’re increasing their penetration. Where is Yahoo recommending installing the Flash Player? How in the hell can they increase your install base statistics in any way to make up for the loss or confusion of potential people downloading your player? You already have the most widely adopted plug-in in HISTORY. Why bother the working formula? You are successful because the Flash player is a small un-intrusive plug-in that does wonderful things (video, no refreshing the page to receive additional information, real time communication, animations, easy interaction with server side logic, runs the same on all browsers on all platforms, PDF-like capabilities, Flex applications, Breeze presentations, Captivate tutorials) it does. Who would have thought something so small could do so much? I’m especially excited about the possibilities of a 1GHz+ Pocket PC running Flash Player 8.
Let’s look at this from a different angle. I have a customer that doesn’t have the Flash Player viewing my website. That person, like 99% of the people who don’t have the Flash Player, is visiting a website that was built by a designer or a developer of Flash who is actually trying to sell something. It used to be that Flash was a small download that took less than a minute on a dial up modem and there was MINIMAL interruption from a customer viewing my/anyone else’s website, especially if they are running Internet Explorer. Now, that small interruption is increased to at least two to three times the size. Plus, you’re messing with OUR BUSINESSES. I want my customer to be able to get this plug-in and get back to my website rather than read a large agreement, reload his browser, etc. If you do anything, you should streamline the process
The Yahoo Toolbar is not spyware or malware, it's just a legitimate IE add-on. If you don't like it then don't install it, you are given that option during the Flash Player install.
the player (flash) gonna be assimilated to spyware which is totally opposed to the previous message "flash is more secure because he cannot acces the system, he got a sandbox" etc...
