Dancers: Let Our Voices Be Heard!
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Author: John Nacu
Started: December 9, 2005, 7:36:41 pm
Target: UC Irvine's VIBE Hip Hop Dance Competition produced by LTD & Other Future Hip Hop Dance Comps.
Supporters:

781
Goal:

100,000
Goal Progress:

1% Complete
Status

Closed
By signing this petition you are showing your support for this movement to protect dancer’s rights and prevent excessive competition and performance fees.

DANCERS LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD!

If we do not speak up, future dance competitions may also require performance fees ranging from $400-$800 per dance team. Think of the total amount of money we are being asked to pay when we are already putting in so much of ourselves just to prepare for a show or competition.

This letter & petition will be sent (next thursday:12/15) to LTD of UC Irvine concerning their annual VIBE Hip Hop Dance Competition.

Please take advantage of this oppertunity to let your voice be heard. Thank you for your support.

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Dear LTD,

VIBE is a well established and reputable dance competition that many teams throughout California look forward to being a part of each year. We have a concern that we would like to bring to your attention in order to continue the positive relationship between the community of dancers and your organization.

We received the registration form for VIBE 2006 and we were taken by surprise. At the end of the registration form you stated…"I understand that if selected to compete, my group will also be obligated to pay a showcase fee of $20 per person."

We're greatly concerned with the substantial increase in VIBE's registration fee. Especially when the dancers are expected to pay more then the people coming to watch the show (pre-sale: $17 & $18 at the door).

We asked you why you've decided to charge more this year and this how you responded…"Last year's flat rate was not enough to sustain the production costs for Vibe. Teams only have to pay if they are selected. This year, Vibe is increasing expenses, especially in lighting. Vibe is has a grand prize pay-out in cash as well. Bustagroove is like that also, and you get a free t-shirt out of it."

What we don't understand is that if last year the flat rate that you charged teams wasn't enough to cover the expenses why have you decided to SPEND EVEN MORE MONEY this year on "lighting" and t-shirts? And by doing so passing down the additional expenses to us, the dancers? We really feel that this takes advantage of our resources when we're already spending so much time, effort, & money just to get ready for a show or competition.

We understand that everything gets more and more expensive each year and dancers are prepared to pay competition fees that are within reason. When the fees are unreasonable it feels as if we're being exploited. Say a team of 30 wins the 1st place prize of $1,000, they put in $600 to compete, the team really only wins $400. Also consider that there are many dancers who are on more then one team that may end up paying up to $60 to perform at your show.

It is unfair for competitions to continue charging the dancers more and more each year because dancers help to make the show possible by not only performing, but promoting and bringing in ticket sales. The dancers work extremely hard to provide
a quality performance and all we ask in return is for the organizers of competitions such as VIBE to consider the dancers perspective and maintain the policy of charging a reasonable flat rate per team in order to compete.

Concerned Dancers & Teams.





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John Joseph Nacu said 12/31/05, 2:51 am (verified)
Thank you to all who have taken the time to read and sign this petition. Know that this petition has impacted the way competitions look at fees toward the dancers and the communication will continue within the dance community in order to address this concern. Our voices have been heard and a dialog has begun. This petition has shown the competitions that the dancers have a voice and cannot be ignored. It will be vital that you, THE DANCERS, THE LEADERS OF TEAMS, & PROMOTERS, continue to take the initiative to talk & work together in order for the competitions to benefit our community as a whole. Like I've said in the past this petition's #1 goal was to raise awareness in order to take the first steps in addressing the dancers' concern of rising competition fees. I'm happy to see you have chosen to do what is RIGHT, rather then just doing what is easy. Know that within three weeks over 750 of you have added your voice in the development of future competitions and in the end, the future of OUR community. THANK YOU. johnjosephnacu
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Tiffany Masters said 12/29/05, 7:09 am (verified)
I support this petition.
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LJohnson said 12/29/05, 5:15 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#779

anonymous said 12/28/05, 5:44 pm (verified)
I support this petition. The creators of Vibe, LTD, make tens of thousands on their annual fundraiser, Vibe. To say they need to increase fees to cover costs, is a lie.
#778

Anh said 12/28/05, 7:35 am (verified)
I support this petition.
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Kireina said 12/28/05, 7:32 am (verified)
I support this petition.
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Phuong said 12/28/05, 7:30 am (verified)
I support this petition.
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Phuong said 12/28/05, 7:30 am (verified)
I support this petition.
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Lieu said 12/28/05, 7:23 am (verified)
I support this petition.
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James "Slimjim" Dang said 12/27/05, 11:14 pm (verified)
Consider the following: Q: Why should we pay to dance? Why are we paying more than the audience? A: You aren't paying only to dance. You are also paying for the venue and related support costs. You are also gaining the benefit of being seen by thousands of people, the ability to network backstage, and the chance to compete for the prize. Besides, how many times have you paid to go to a club -- to dance? The audience is paying to only sit and watch. --- Q: Why charge the dancers at all? Why not rely solely on audience revenue? A: First consider -- why should dancers even pay dues to their own company? Why not rely solely on revenue from doing shows? The answer is straightforward -- in many cases, the revenue simply isn't enough. Dance companies rarely break even, so they have to rely on dues. Big shows do make profit, but not as much as you'd think -- then it becomes a question of, how much do you think the promoter deserves for their work? How much should the promoter go into debt, and how many months of work should s/he spent, "just for the love"? --- Q: Why should we let promoters make money off our talents? A: Promoters don't make money directly of other people's talent -- you could say they are simply selling a commodity, which happens to be dance. They are not taking credit for your talent and skill. Kind of like a talent agent, or a real estate agent -- they earn their money through networking, organization, advertisement, marketing, etc. Here's another example -- consider big business conventions (Gaming Expos, Clothing Shows, whatever). Vendors (exhibitors, performers) must pay for their booths. What they gain is an advantage in marketing and networking. Dance companies competing at big shows like Vibe and Bustagroove gain in similar ways. And don't forget that at most BBOY competitions, the competitors still pay to get in. Sometimes they pay even more
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anonymous said 12/27/05, 5:35 pm (verified)
The creators of Vibe, LTD, make tens of thousands on their annual fundraiser, Vibe. To say they need to increase fees to cover costs, is a lie.
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John Joseph Nacu said 12/27/05, 9:00 am (verified)
Just to let all of you know...I've been working with several people in the dance community, including Anna Sarao of Bustagroove, in order to come up with positive ideas to address the concerns I've stated in this petition. If you'd like to hear more & truly care about our dance community Anna Sarao has opened the upcoming "Alliance Meeting" to everyone. What: Discussion Panel: "Alliance Meeting" Date: Sunday, January 22nd, 2006 Time: 3:30-4:45pm Cost to just attend panel: FREE Location: The San Pedro Ballet School 1231 Pacific Avenue San Pedro, CA 90731 If you plan on attending or have any questions concerning the meeting please e-mail: cultureshockla@yahoo.com Website: www.cultureshockdance.org /csla I encourage all of you to come, I know this meeting will be the start of great things to come for the dance community. I will also be there as well to answer any and all questions in person.
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Michael Jackson said 12/27/05, 7:14 am (verified)
I"m starting with the man in the mirror. I'm asking him to make that change. And no message could have been any clearer,....if you want to make this world a better place, take a look at yourself and make that change! nana na nana na na na na na...
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Sean Paul Espanola said 12/27/05, 1:27 am (verified)
I support this petition. Also local bboy crews and dance teams
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Jeramie Salumbides said 12/26/05, 7:10 pm (verified)
I support this petition.
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may casabar said 12/26/05, 6:55 pm (verified)
I support this petition.
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fred roberts said 12/26/05, 11:12 am (verified)
I support this petition.
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azelle santa ana said 12/26/05, 9:00 am (verified)
I support this petition.
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Gerard said 12/24/05, 11:56 pm (verified)
I support this petition.
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johnny k said 12/24/05, 11:13 pm (verified)
I support this petition.
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