Signatures #1400 through #1500 for the Platform independent solution to watch "Strea... petition
Pawel W. said 01/01/07, 6:08 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#1500

Mikael Leiviska said 01/01/07, 6:07 am (verified)
Why is EU using a closed, propertiary format from Microsoft after EU's action against Microsoft for not beeing interoperable is beyond me. This is pure hyppocracy in my eyes.
#1499

peter hinkle said 01/01/07, 6:06 am (verified)
all internet access to government should be platform independant.
#1498

Larry Snider said 01/01/07, 6:06 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#1497

Andrew Jewett said 01/01/07, 6:06 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#1496

Benjamin Delfin said 01/01/07, 6:04 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#1495

Scott Porter said 01/01/07, 6:04 am (verified)
I don't see why it should be illegal for me to use Linux to view a video stream. Is it illegal not to pay large corporations for access to the council now?! This is absolutely ridiculous - government should be adopting open standards, not forcing people to pay US companies to see content.
#1494

Niels L Ellegaard said 01/01/07, 6:03 am (verified)
The services of the union should be for all citizens. Not just for the ones that have bought a product from a specific company.
#1493

Chris said 01/01/07, 6:02 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#1492

Tony Young said 01/01/07, 6:01 am (verified)
The council should be adopting open standards, not a proprietary codec. By moving as it has done, it is not only ensuring a rapidly growing number of users is locked out, it is also ensuring that at some time in the future it will not be able to read its own files.
#1491

Paul Davidson said 01/01/07, 6:01 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#1490

Ashar Iqbal said 01/01/07, 6:00 am (verified)
I only have Linux available to me on my PCs and I wish to be able to see these video streams.
#1489

timmyJL said 01/01/07, 6:00 am (verified)
Sir/Madam I use windows from time to time but i prefer my linux computer to be able to watch media online. I humbly request that you consider using an open standard to play your media. By insisting on using the wmv standard you are creating an environment where you are implicitlely creating demand for one provider over another. The provider in this case being Microsoft. This is not inherently bad, but it may not be fair to other providers of software some of whom may be constituents of the European Union. A way of avoiding any problem may be to select a format from one of the open standards groups. The ISO/IEC based MPEG standards come to mind. If you were to select one of these standards you may find some advantages. The first would be that you will be able to get competition in service providers since many vendors will be able to support it. The second thing would be that most of the PR problems may disappear since you would be saying that you support open standards that, to the majority at least, are fiarer and "better"(whatever that means). timmy
#1488

Jens Finkhäuser said 01/01/07, 5:59 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#1487

Pau Estalella said 01/01/07, 5:58 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#1486

Justinas Kauzonas said 01/01/07, 5:57 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#1485

Philip Allison said 01/01/07, 5:57 am (verified)
The problem is not so much that there are no free/open-source video codecs, but rather that Windows Media Player doesn't support them out of the box, and that's the player Windows users expect to use.
#1484

Paul Andersson said 01/01/07, 5:55 am (verified)
There are actually alot of Linux users, and it does not cost you anything to stream then in a format that will allow everyone to watch...
#1483

stefan pokorny said 01/01/07, 5:54 am (verified)
no comment
#1482

Christian Bongiorno said 01/01/07, 5:52 am (verified)
Per the EU's own dictum: The Official Journal of the European Union shall be published in the twenty official languages. How can an institution that refers to languages as: "Europe's assets" accept using a technology that specifically prohibits legal digest of materials by some of it's members when perfectly acceptable alternatives exist that remove this restriction?
#1481

Alan Cocks said 01/01/07, 5:52 am (verified)
There is nothing illegal about Open Source approaches. The EU Council is ill informed. The Council has a duty to provide information in a reasonable way. It is not reasonable to exclude all but high cost proprietary formats. Enduring records in archives in proprietary formats will be unusable in a few years time.
#1480

Bryan C said 01/01/07, 5:49 am (verified)
"We cannot support Linux in a legal way." That is because you chose to use a proprietary format.
#1479

Anonymous EU Citizen said 01/01/07, 5:48 am (verified)
Governmental organizations should always provide media in free formats. Additionally, your law states that using illicit codecs to view your streaming service can only be considered a crime by the client, thus supporting Linux cannot be done in a non-"legal way". This is complete nonsense.
#1478

Mario Berazategui said 01/01/07, 5:45 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#1477

Phill Kenoyer said 01/01/07, 5:44 am (verified)
I vote for Flash video.
#1476

Mark Meyer said 01/01/07, 5:42 am (verified)
It would be nice if the Council demonstrated technical ability instead of finding political excuses to their technical problems.
#1475

Peter Marheine said 01/01/07, 5:41 am (verified)
Not only is WMV not free, but there are better codecs around.
#1474

Jose Castejon-Amenedo said 01/01/07, 5:39 am (verified)
Support open standards. Otherwise, the Microsoft and Apple of the world will get more money from you than you'll be willing to pay.
#1473

Dario Davide said 01/01/07, 5:39 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#1472

Bevan Hay said 01/01/07, 5:38 am (verified)
This is an object lesson in why the use of proprietary formats is so restricting!
#1471

Josh K said 01/01/07, 5:38 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#1470

Florin Andrei said 01/01/07, 5:37 am (verified)
nice lobby, Microsoft!
#1469

Timothy Smith said 01/01/07, 5:37 am (verified)
There is no technical reason and there should be no legal reason for not opening this streaming up to everyone.
#1468

Nikola Gotovac said 01/01/07, 5:35 am (verified)
Something trivial as codec is just a sign of poor understanding and policy should be stablished to use only independent formats for all types of media.
#1467

David Andrew Thompson said 01/01/07, 5:34 am (verified)
Tax dollars from ALL people should support the systems of ALL people. In this day and age there is no excuse.
#1466

Daniel Nakov said 01/01/07, 5:33 am (verified)
Don't pay Microsoft!
#1465

Alex Schultz said 01/01/07, 5:31 am (verified)
Supporting only a single video codec is a poor choice, particularly when the format is proprietary, and does not support individual freedom of choice.
#1464

D Broekhof said 01/01/07, 5:29 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#1463

Andrew Lundgren said 01/01/07, 5:29 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#1462

Darren F. Hall said 01/01/07, 5:29 am (verified)
A system that is founded upon the basis of open communication and transparent operation can afford no less than to carry its ideals with all manner and means into all its endeavors.
#1461

John Anderson said 01/01/07, 5:25 am (verified)
I am amazed to learn that such an organisation is not supporting Linux.
#1460

Tommy Jensen said 01/01/07, 5:24 am (verified)
Governments should at least support the open standards!
#1459

Betmig C said 01/01/07, 5:24 am (verified)
o_o please don't be rude.
#1458

Angel carmona said 01/01/07, 5:24 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#1457

Ed Ramsey said 01/01/07, 5:23 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#1456

Luke Walthour said 01/01/07, 5:19 am (verified)
Linux rules!
#1455

Roy P said 01/01/07, 5:17 am (verified)
Platform independance is the key to an open computing environment.
#1454

Richard said 01/01/07, 5:17 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#1453

Roy P said 01/01/07, 5:16 am (verified)
Platform independance is the key to an open computing environment.
#1452

David McNicholl said 01/01/07, 5:16 am (verified)
Please stop using this proprietary format!
#1451

Ramon Casha said 01/01/07, 5:16 am (verified)
The council most certainly can support Linux in a perfectly legal way, by using one of the many streaming media formats that are based on open standards. What is the council, a subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation?
#1450

carl mackey said 01/01/07, 5:15 am (verified)
to only use the wmv codec is laughable. you are making a publicly available document encoded with a non-open format. the overall result is that the document is not truly publicly available. encoding using some other codec would be easy -- why only use a format which is not only technically inferior but also tied to a company?
#1449

James Edezhath said 01/01/07, 5:12 am (verified)
On a global level, a lot depends on EU's taking a lead in interoperability and it is indeed a shame that EU should ignore this opportunity to provide access to the streaming services to users of linux platform. I hope this is rectified without delay
#1448

Trey Dockendorf said 01/01/07, 5:12 am (verified)
Support open source
#1447

Leandro GFC DUTRA said 01/01/07, 5:12 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#1446

JVarga said 01/01/07, 5:10 am (verified)
Google Video, Yahoo Video, YouTube. None of these standard video services will be able to display your broadcasts. Much of the open standard video codecs have been developed in Europe by Europeans, in an effort to promote freedom and openness and you're foolish enough to argue using a proprietary, closed-format developed by a convicted monopolist that's not part of the EU? As a matter of fact, isn't the EU currently fining Microsoft some outlandish amount each day that they willingly disregard a direct court order? What kind of kickback did it take to implement such a silly protocol?
#1445

Simon Drabble said 01/01/07, 5:10 am (verified)
Sad and pathetic that govt is not just so clearly in the pocket of a private corporation, but makes no attempt to hide it.
#1444

Trevor Farrell said 01/01/07, 5:10 am (verified)
Open government REQUIRES open standards.
#1443

Johannes S said 01/01/07, 5:09 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#1442

Bill S said 01/01/07, 5:09 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#1441

Jusitn C said 01/01/07, 5:08 am (verified)
PLease support the open source
#1440

McKenzie Bryan said 01/01/07, 5:08 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#1439

frank kokot said 01/01/07, 5:06 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#1438

Andreas Saebjoernsen said 01/01/07, 5:06 am (verified)
As a public entity the EU should and as far as I know is required to make all information available to all inhabitants without discrimination. Unless Microsoft releases their proprietary WMV or apple their Quicktime formats one of the many alternative streaming formats should be used (e.g the open source Videolan or the proprietary Real Video). Although Microsoft and Apple currently holds a large part of the PC Desktop market there are a large number of alterative emerging channels; cell phone video, TiVO like devices and PSP-like devices. These latter forms of devices are much more numerous than a PC and therefore it does not make sence to only target major PC platforms. Also it is important that a lot of EU governments are expecting to adopt Linux as an operating system, especially in the educational sector, so it is short-sighted to not target this audience also.
#1437

Bert Vermeulen said 01/01/07, 5:05 am (verified)
Information payed for by our taxmoney should be freely (in every sense of the word) be available
#1436

L Corkery said 01/01/07, 5:04 am (verified)
Why is a public institution locking itself into a proprietary standard. Especially when there are plenty of perfectly good alternatives. Drop WMV. Open standards for public institutions.
#1435

Ken Sandham said 01/01/07, 5:02 am (verified)
Every Government especially the EU should promote civil liberties by adopting OPEN standards of communications. It is ludicrous that the EU is tying itself to an Operating System from a supplier (Microsoft) the EU has take legal action against.
#1434

nick may said 01/01/07, 5:01 am (verified)
This is a disgrace that brings the Council into disrepute. Why must I run an expensive, proprietary operating system in order to view this content?
#1433

Cort Wee said 01/01/07, 5:01 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#1432

Nick said 01/01/07, 4:59 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#1431

Johan Thelmén said 01/01/07, 4:58 am (verified)
Microsoft is convicted for using unfair tactics forcing users to Windows. Then we also continue to force users to use only Microsoft. That is unfair competition. Please look at legal alternatives like Real Media or open formats and protocols like vorbis or theora. My and orther families is otherwise bared from live streaming video. -- Falun Sweden
#1430

Ted Mitchell said 01/01/07, 4:58 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#1429

Jules Stoop said 01/01/07, 4:53 am (verified)
Using WMV for the video codec is retarded. The codec is owned by a company (Microsoft) and your (our) to use it, could theoretically be revoked at any moment. I strongly advise the EU to use a codec based on an open standard (mpeg4)
#1428

James Copeland said 01/01/07, 4:52 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#1427

Asim Ali said 01/01/07, 4:51 am (verified)
Please support open source OS such as Linux and other Unix.
#1426

Kevin Rowe said 01/01/07, 4:50 am (verified)
Although in actuality it is not difficult to view these streams in Linux; the fact is that open software is the better choice for public documents. By choosing one of the many high quality open formats you don't force your viewing public to buy a Microsoft product. That is a better path unless you have stock in Microsoft.
#1425

Jeremie Z. said 01/01/07, 4:50 am (verified)
Wait and maybe they'll tell you it's because of idiotic patents granted by the European Patent Office, which they claim they cannot control ! (poor Europe...)
#1424

Michael Kohn said 01/01/07, 4:50 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#1423

rohan maloney said 01/01/07, 4:49 am (verified)
The council has the right as does every ciztien to use what ever format it pleases. covering MS and MAC it would cover 96% of its user base. Why should a the Council be forced to use Linux. at wost they should have a format that can be played on every media player, Or perhaps linux should play WMV or Quicktime formats.
#1422

Adam Rae said 01/01/07, 4:49 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#1421

Kevin Sdhadow said 01/01/07, 4:48 am (verified)
.wmv is not the only format available. Linux is free. Help save everyone money. Gave the saved money to the hungry.
#1420

Nigel Schofield said 01/01/07, 4:47 am (verified)
If a commercial service like Youtube can display videos on Linux then there is no excuse for the EU's failure.
#1419

max said 01/01/07, 4:47 am (verified)
eediots
#1418

Ajay said 01/01/07, 4:47 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#1417

Ricardo Miranda said 01/01/07, 4:46 am (verified)
Please support Linux.
#1416

Harry Laufman said 01/01/07, 4:45 am (verified)
Building services that are product specific amounts to a government subsidy, or even a government sponsored monoploy.
#1415

Paul C said 01/01/07, 4:45 am (verified)
Every governmental body should support open standards.
#1414

Jim LasCola said 01/01/07, 4:43 am (verified)
Dont let "ONE" Greedy Corporation hold you Hostage to a Proprietary format!
#1413

Pedro Ribeiro said 01/01/07, 4:42 am (verified)
It is unforgivable that one of our highest organisms within the EU lacks the necessary vision to understand that they need not "support" any given OS, whether proprietary or "free". They only need (or, rather, it should be their mandate) to provide the information EVERY SINGLE EU CITIZEN has the right to access in a non-proprietary format. Open standards exist for that exact reason: to allow access to everyone, regardless of the platform they use. I am extremely disappointed.
#1412

Vesa Jokinen said 01/01/07, 4:42 am (verified)
There are open formats to use for video streaming. The excuses of the Council of the European Union are lame.
#1411

Victor Munoz said 01/01/07, 4:42 am (verified)
Please support Linux.
#1410

Stephen Backway said 01/01/07, 4:41 am (verified)
What happened to freedom of information?
#1409

Bruce Nelson said 01/01/07, 4:41 am (verified)
Please attempt to support a free format style for presentations.
#1408

Martin Pullan said 01/01/07, 4:41 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#1407

Udo Hoerhold said 01/01/07, 4:40 am (verified)
By streaming in a closed format, you are providing access to your stream only to those who are willing to license a third-party product. This is not appropriate for an organization that is supposed to represent citizens.
#1406

Daryl Yager said 01/01/07, 4:40 am (verified)
It is preposterous that governments advocate proprietary formats, either Apple or Microsoft or RealPlay formats. Inasmuch as governments don't allow "BMW" or "Fiat" branded roads, information exchange formats for document or audio or video should not be permitted to be in proprietary formats. In the same way that roads and broadcast standards are in non-proprietary formats, information standards should be non-proprietary. Also, American standards, those created by companies such as Microsoft cannot be allowed to dominate communications, or your countries and economies will be forever enslaved to those same companies, because those who control the communication medium control the communication.
#1405

Valeri Damianov said 01/01/07, 4:40 am (verified)
If the IT personnel of the EU Council is so incompetent to provide a suitable to all solution please ask the Open source community for help, they'll do it for free for you.
#1404

Kirk Johnson said 01/01/07, 4:39 am (verified)
You have no right to not support every OS out there. support the Linux OS
#1403

Jerry D. Neal said 01/01/07, 4:39 am (verified)
Supporting a vendor-specific, non-cross-platform streaming format is directly supporting a monopoly: no more, no less.
#1402

Tony Castley said 01/01/07, 4:39 am (verified)
Many formats could be used legally to stream these videos for users of all operating systems.
#1401