Signatures #2300 through #2400 for the Platform independent solution to watch "Strea... petition
Sebastian Ossio said 01/01/07, 11:58 am (verified)
I don't understand from where a statement like: "We cannot support Linux in a legal way." comes from , you either don't have qualified advisors or the microsoft lobby central is doing a better job than what I can imagine.
#2400

Andrew Abado said 01/01/07, 11:57 am (verified)
This is a stupid attempt to make Linux users swtich to windows! OpenSource for the win!
#2399

Bjarte S. Karlsen said 01/01/07, 11:57 am (verified)
EU - please use open standards.
#2398

Farid Hajji said 01/01/07, 11:57 am (verified)
I'm using a computer with the FreeBSD operating system, and using Mac or MS Windows is not an option to me. Is this legitimate practice from an OFFICIAL body? That's mindboggling! Please live by your own standards and rules and do provide us with standards-compliant formats. There's nothing wrong to support proprietary formats IN ADDITION to open formats (as a courtesy service), but not INSTEAD OF them. There's absolutely no excuse to hide official proceedings and documents behind proprietary file formats. Merci, Gracias, Dankeschoen, and Thank you.
#2397

Andrew Whyte said 01/01/07, 11:57 am (verified)
open formats exist so that everyone can enjoy priviliges like this. Surely that is in keeping with the democratic aims of the EU?
#2396

John Prescott said 01/01/07, 11:57 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2395

Jan L said 01/01/07, 11:56 am (verified)
It would be nice if open formats were used, so all platforms could use it...
#2394

Ian Lynch said 01/01/07, 11:55 am (verified)
Fully Open Standards should be supported by all democratic governments when ever possible. This is a case where its not hard to do the right thing.
#2393

Lucas Wileltt said 01/01/07, 11:55 am (verified)
Open source will strengthen the technological forces of the EU. Support Open Source.
#2392

J Heinonen said 01/01/07, 11:55 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2391

Peter Sjoholm said 01/01/07, 11:55 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2390

Christian Juner said 01/01/07, 11:55 am (verified)
This is discrimination under EU law, isn't it?
#2389

Johan Crépin said 01/01/07, 11:54 am (verified)
There are so much free solutions for video streaming. Why choose a proprietary and platform dependent of it.
#2388

Aleksi Torhamo said 01/01/07, 11:54 am (verified)
Outrageous.
#2387

Laurens Buhler said 01/01/07, 11:54 am (verified)
Take an opensource format for streaming and all platforms can enjoy this service.
#2386

Anthony Whitehead said 01/01/07, 11:54 am (verified)
This is either about a lazy or incompetent IT department. The PR department only knows what the IT people tell them.
#2385

Hans Bossenbroek said 01/01/07, 11:54 am (verified)
It's absolutely unacceptable that this type of public information is distributed using such a closed format.
#2384

David Arvidsson said 01/01/07, 11:54 am (verified)
EU - please use open standards.
#2383

Michel Daemen said 01/01/07, 11:53 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2382

cosyns x. said 01/01/07, 11:53 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2381

Justin Browne said 01/01/07, 11:53 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2380

Richard Kraan said 01/01/07, 11:53 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2379

Robin Smith said 01/01/07, 11:53 am (verified)
The irony, MS and Apple are US for profit companies. Linux is free and was started in Europe. Please only use open formats for data.
#2378

Gian Paolo Vacca said 01/01/07, 11:53 am (verified)
It should be formally asked Who is gaining from the current situation.
#2377

Mikael J Korpela said 01/01/07, 11:52 am (verified)
NO for closed formats in EU
#2376

Jo Harris said 01/01/07, 11:52 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2375

simone said 01/01/07, 11:52 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2374

Martin Zdrahal said 01/01/07, 11:52 am (verified)
I am an EU citizen and I am paying taxes - it is YOUR DAMN JOB to deliver the content in such a way anyone is able to consume it!
#2373

Thomas Ruschival said 01/01/07, 11:52 am (verified)
Does this mean I have to use a commercial OS to stay informed about the politics? What lobby paid for this interpretation of the law?
#2372

Christian Svensson said 01/01/07, 11:51 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2371

Lauri Friberg said 01/01/07, 11:51 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2370

Soteris Leventis said 01/01/07, 11:51 am (verified)
Please let us know the exact legal issues to work together on this since you represent us and we want open standards.
#2369

bruno armand said 01/01/07, 11:51 am (verified)
First the EU forces microsoft to make a windows version without media player, then it makes its format compulsory ??? This must be some kind of joke. There are free open source codecs; there are free open source streaming solutions.
#2368

Lorenzo Isella said 01/01/07, 11:51 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2367

Kåre Särs said 01/01/07, 11:50 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2366

Peter Moll said 01/01/07, 11:50 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2365

Paul Sinnett said 01/01/07, 11:50 am (verified)
Ignorance of the open formats available for all platforms is no excuse. Fools!
#2364

Anze Slosar said 01/01/07, 11:50 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2363

Kalle Sandström said 01/01/07, 11:49 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2362

Ton van Eijs said 01/01/07, 11:49 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2361

Adam Harrison said 01/01/07, 11:49 am (verified)
European democracy only available to those who pay a tax to American software companies? Given that Europe is the birthplace of Linux kernel and democracy, I think we can do better, no?
#2360

Henk Oom said 01/01/07, 11:49 am (verified)
yes
#2359

R.L.Regensburg said 01/01/07, 11:48 am (verified)
Denying this service to Linux users might be illegal..
#2358

De Maertelaere Koen said 01/01/07, 11:48 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2357

Thomas Lund Dideriksen said 01/01/07, 11:48 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2356

Jorge Jesus said 01/01/07, 11:48 am (verified)
Monopolies are a terrible disease.
#2355

Ruben Tavernier said 01/01/07, 11:47 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2354

Georg Schröjahr said 01/01/07, 11:47 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2353

Ken Maddison said 01/01/07, 11:47 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2352

Craig Loftus said 01/01/07, 11:47 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2351

Maarten Fabré said 01/01/07, 11:47 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2350

Andrew Montgomery said 01/01/07, 11:47 am (verified)
Its disgusting that free information should be locked away from citizens due to proprietary encoding. There are plenty of other methods, including various codecs wrapped in an Ogg container format, or streaming flash video, MPEG-1. Hell, even if you can't be free your own information to promote ease of use, you could use another codec such as realmedia, which at least has a rarely well supported linux player (though only for those using systems supported by RealMedia).
#2349

Matt Grandis said 01/01/07, 11:46 am (verified)
This is an outrage. And this is isn't even about Linux or OSS but about another blatant lie spewed by the EU council. This is a sure sign of either incredible incompetence (as shown multiple times before) or plain corruption (dto.). Either way, about every programmer I know could easily set up a perfectly legal and platform indepedent streaming solution. Shame on you.
#2348

Roc Vallès Domènech said 01/01/07, 11:46 am (verified)
I shouldn't be told to *buy* the official software from some monopolistic corporation. Free codecs such as Theora should be used instead.
#2347

Marc Dirix said 01/01/07, 11:46 am (verified)
EU should be open, not closed!
#2346

Haavard Froeiland said 01/01/07, 11:46 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2345

Raphael said 01/01/07, 11:46 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2344

Falk Köppe said 01/01/07, 11:46 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2343

felipe valladolid gonz said 01/01/07, 11:46 am (verified)
somos muchos
#2342

Ulrich Hobelmann said 01/01/07, 11:45 am (verified)
Stop the stupid excuses. Really, can there be any valid reason not to use something based on a public standard, when you're a public organization?
#2341

Gregor Gorjanc said 01/01/07, 11:45 am (verified)
Use of openstandards should be default!
#2340

Mikael Nordfeldth said 01/01/07, 11:45 am (verified)
By choosing to do the "only" legal option (using WMV) you basically encourage reverse engineering from the non-Mac-and-Windows community. Something that is not really encouraged by the EU elsewhere.
#2339

Ville Lindholm said 01/01/07, 11:45 am (verified)
No closed formats in the EU!
#2338

Jeroen Ruigrok van der said 01/01/07, 11:45 am (verified)
As a payer of tax in the Netherlands and thus also the European Union as well as being an IT professional I can say there's no legal nor technological restriction that would limit your choice to an open 'codec' which would allow ANY citizen of the European Union to view the content.
#2337

Urs Kanus said 01/01/07, 11:45 am (verified)
It is the money of all tax payers that pays your bills. Therefore, it is your responsibility to offer services to ALL citizens. There are open standards for legally streaming media content not limited to products of one certain company. Of course, if you only listen to that company, there is no other way to serve media content ;-)
#2336

Guido de Jong said 01/01/07, 11:44 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2335

Petteri Räty said 01/01/07, 11:44 am (verified)
This is like saying that we can't translate stuff to some languages because of legal reasons.
#2334

Anders Damm said 01/01/07, 11:44 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2333

Jyri Hämäläinen said 01/01/07, 11:44 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2332

Vincent said 01/01/07, 11:43 am (verified)
Using a video format that people who don't use MS Windows can watch is illegal only if you copy/paste MS propaganda. Use MPEG, Theora, whatever, but we, users of non-Windows, non-Apple OSes, would be pleased to be citizens as everyone else, and, as such, be able to participate in the democratic processes.
#2331

Iskandar Prins said 01/01/07, 11:43 am (verified)
EU: Do not put us in a vendor lock please.
#2330

Richard Bouska said 01/01/07, 11:43 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2329

Antti Lindström said 01/01/07, 11:43 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2328

rob van den berg said 01/01/07, 11:43 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2327

Tomas said 01/01/07, 11:43 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2326

Erik Faugstad said 01/01/07, 11:43 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2325

Alessandro Galli said 01/01/07, 11:43 am (verified)
There are a wide range of open source software permitting also Linux users to view the video. If EU doesn't want to use only those software, they can at least use both wmv and something else!
#2324

Borut Kumperscak said 01/01/07, 11:43 am (verified)
EU has had a brave and proud record of open standards use in the past, and so i believe the solution in question should be reconsidered to recognise that.
#2323

Peter Gray said 01/01/07, 11:43 am (verified)
Bizarre. You cannot support open standards because???
#2322

Javier de Martino said 01/01/07, 11:42 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2321

Wim Wauters said 01/01/07, 11:42 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2320

Adam Wood said 01/01/07, 11:42 am (verified)
I can accept the notion that Linux is too niche to support, but blatantly wrong statements that it cannot be supported must be challenged, corrected and prevented in the future. If anything the EU is who we should be looking to to enforce that ALL users have access.
#2319

Flavio V. S. Zanchi said 01/01/07, 11:41 am (verified)
The EU should be free from closed/proprietary formats, and as an EU citizen I request that all EU gov. media content be accessible to all, regardless of their choice of computing platform.
#2318

Erik Nørgaard said 01/01/07, 11:41 am (verified)
That information belong to the people! We pay our taxes - and we vote! There is no justification for limiting legitimate access to information by use of proprietary codecs when there exists alternatives. Such moves inhibit the people from engaging in the democracy.
#2317

Olivier Favre-Simon said 01/01/07, 11:41 am (verified)
Platform independant solution is a technical goal. Being independent of any monopoly is the real philosophical and political goal.
#2316

Michael Cotter said 01/01/07, 11:40 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2315

Carlos said 01/01/07, 11:40 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2314

Piotr Pełzowski said 01/01/07, 11:40 am (verified)
Use open standards and not proprieatary ones.
#2313

Bram Enning said 01/01/07, 11:40 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2312

Markus Karlsson said 01/01/07, 11:40 am (verified)
Seriously, how hard can it be?
#2311

Lean Fuglsang said 01/01/07, 11:40 am (verified)
Open Standards should be default for public institutions. They create growth, by making multiple vendors compete - and make it easier for end users, since things will work by default.
#2310

Paul F. Johnson said 01/01/07, 11:39 am (verified)
So what your actually saying is that you don't really give a fig about freedom of speech, democracy and accountability for all or in the freedom of choice?
#2309

Stefaan V. d. Abbeele said 01/01/07, 11:39 am (verified)
As a European citizen and a Linux user i strongly protest against the closed formats the EU Council is using for the streaming of it's meetings. The EU should move towards open and platform independent streaming. I feel that my rights as an EU-citizen are being violated for i have no access to these streams. I still believe in a strong European Union, and i fully support it's ideas, so please change your policies towards this, so i will not loose faith in the EU. Kind Regards.
#2308

Gert van Spijker said 01/01/07, 11:39 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2307

Mike Foster said 01/01/07, 11:39 am (verified)
Unacceptable excuse! Tail wagging the dog?
#2306

John Simpson said 01/01/07, 11:38 am (verified)
I can tell this is a French idea. If this were a UK attempt to oppress the citizens, they would have said "There are national security reasons which mean you have to buy M$..."
#2305

Marco Wollkopf said 01/01/07, 11:38 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2304

Hampus Wessman said 01/01/07, 11:37 am (verified)
This should really be accessible for everyone, not only customers of Apple and Microsoft! Public governments should support open source and open formats, accessible on all platforms...
#2303

Joona Hoikkala said 01/01/07, 11:37 am (verified)
It's certainly possible.
#2302

Rob Taylor said 01/01/07, 11:37 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#2301