I believe that everyone should be able to go to the mall. It is a public place where you should not be able to set an age limit. All the stores/small buisnesses will now lose a lot of business if this continues to happen.
About time they're doing something to clean up Holyoke. What better place to begin than at the mall. Now all the little punks can hang out on your ghetto street corners, where those of us from suburbia will never venture down. Leave the mall to those of us that actually have money to spend.
Your kidding? Are you serious about sending this petition to the Holyoke Mall management?
The management will look at this petition and put in in a shredder. Management will tell you that you teens belong in summer school or reform school.
i dont think u have the right to take the things us teens do for fun the problem i have is the community is making all these programs for teens like us to stay out of smoking doing drugs and being in gangs but what i think that u r forcing us teens to do those things and thats why chicopee and holyoke are so mad at ur company and we will protest if we have to .another thing that i think ur company is wrong is because u think with this new pilicy u will earn more money but more than have the money u get each year is spentfrom and on these teens
think when ur article came on the news paper it says about$100.000.000
is from these teens u think are doing harm to ur mall but there the reason u have so much money at the end of the year and we want u to under stand that
also the tens around the age of 16 and thats the age that u work and when u have a job u can have the right to spend the money that u bust ur hiney for and them getting up at 6 in the morning to work so they can make someone out of themselves
that holyoke mall stuff is so dumb it wont matter. i mean sure, they might follow through, but how will they know if ur 18 or not?are they gonna have guards at every entrance whose gonna ask for ur ID?security?"oh that kid looks tall""im gonna ask him"this will bring racism back in and ethnicity, sexism, everything back to the table. Also, there will be time issues. People will be held up showing security and others their ID's. And there may be something, where the security asks "can i see ur ID?" isn't ID made from your license? What if someone, about the age of 19, doesn't have there license yet, and wants to get in?
Those are only a few possibilities, but I won't mind this rule really. The holyoke mall is too crowded anyway, so the mall is actually helping a lot of people out. Lots of annoying, cocky, and egotistical teens won't be vandalizing the place. The mall could be less crowded, but also more crowded with parents made to go! Also, the key thing is saturdays and fridays! Go after school if you can, you got sunday, monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday to go to the mall!
I'll sign the petition, but there are two equal sides to the argument
I am a mother of a 15 year old and I find it very hard to believe that they are going to prevent the kids from going to the mall. I myself have allowed my son to go to the mall on weekends. He shops, eats and goes to the movies. These kids are well behaved kids and shouldn't be punished for being teenagers. I drop my son off and pick him up. I am a frequent mall shopper and I have never had any problems with the teenagers there. I also feel that the same way police officers are guilty of racial profiling I feel that the Mall security will too.
i don't undertand why you are punishing all teens.. i go to the mall friday and saturday nights and actually shop, if it such a big deal, then punish the ones who are creating the problems..
thank you
I really hate how important things to teenagers are getting cut off. Like talk of raising the driving age and getting stuck with your parents for a little too long.
i dont think u have the right to take the things us teens do for fun the problem i have is the community is making all these programs for teens like us to stay out of smoking doing drugs and being in gangs but what i think that u r forcing us teens to do those things and thats why chicopee and holyoke are so mad at ur company and we will protest if we have to .another thing that i think ur company is wrong is because u think with this new pilicy u will earn more money but more than have the money u get each year is spentfrom and on these teens
think when ur article came on the news paper it says about$100.000.000
is from these teens u think are doing harm to ur mall but there the reason u have so much money at the end of the year and we want u to under stand that
also the tens around the age of 16 and thats the age that u work and when u have a job u can have the right to spend the money that u bust ur hiney for and them getting up at 6 in the morning to work so they can make someone out of themselves
I do not think that the mall should be for 18+ on Friday and Saturday nights. And if you are younger than 18 you have to be there with a parent, that is messed up. The mall is suppose to be a place to meet up with friends and purchase items. If this really does happen I wont shop there anymore, I think that goes for many more people. This will hurt the money intake and the business is going to go down. I don't want to be a 16 year old walking around the mall with my mother. Thanks.
I am a parent of 2 children that live in Holyoke. This is age discrimination and violation of constitutional rights. I will spend NO money at the Holyoke Mall if this policy goes into effect. We do not need this in the city of Holyoke. Thank you.
i dont think u have the right to take the things us teens do for fun the problem i have is the community is making all these programs for teens like us to stay out of smoking doing drugs and being in gangs but what i think that u r forcing us teens to do those things and thats why chicopee and holyoke are so mad at ur company and we will protest if we have to .another thing that i think ur company is wrong is because u think with this new pilicy u will earn more money but more than have the money u get each year is spentfrom and on these teens
think when ur article came on the news paper it says about$100.000.000
is from these tenns u think are doing harm to ur mall but there the reason u have so much money at the end of the year and we want u to under stand that
this is so stupid the mall is punishing people for other peoples mistakes they should do something else than this i cant belive this at all when i heard this i was like oh heck no everybody should be able to go to the mall i think that they should do it only for teenagers cause they are the ones who are doing it well maybe they could make a list of the people who are the ones who are doing the bad stuff then when they come to the front entrance since the security guards are gonna be at every entrance they/security guards should have a list of the bad people then when people go in the mall check if their name is on the list if it is then they dont go in or use pics take pics of the bad people give it to the security guards have them check the people who come in and if they are the ones you kick them out
This is discriminatory against young people and should not be allowed. It is a generaliztion that all young people cause trouble and is unconstitutional. We can't let this issue fade away we have to keep fighting it.
I don't believe it's right to do this. Most of the kids who hang out there are well-behaved. If there are only a few groups of kids who get disruptive you should just kick them out of the mall. It's not fair to teens who go there to shop and teens who don't cause a problem. It's also not fair to teens whose parents HATE the mall. Not a lot of kids will want to walk around the mall with their parents. It's just embarrassing. Adults should think about what they would think if they were teenagers. We keep getting our hang out spots taken away. Pretty soon we're gonna end up hanging out on the street, which is highly unsafe.
When i gop to the mall for whatever reason i buy something,see a movie (give you money) bye not aloowing us at the mall without an adult your throwing away your own bussiness. The only time id ever eat at the mall is if im hanging out the with my friends.
When i gop to the mall for whatever reason i buy something,see a movie (give you money) bye not aloowing us at the mall without an adult your throwing away your own bussiness. The only time id ever eat at the mall is if im hanging out the with my friends.
The mall will lose so much money. I am a Vermont citizen and the only time my friends and I can go to the mall is after school on Fridays or after work on Saturdays. This mall is the closest mall to us and if you ban 17 and unders from the mall at this hour, you will lose almost all of your Vermont customers. I'm sure that the response to this would be to bring my parent, but my parents don't get home until 6 and then by the time we drive to the mall it's already 7. My parents are not going to waste a half of a tank of gas for an hour and a half of shopping.
If you really want to make a statement you all should boycott Holyoke Mall. I'm sure half the revenue is by teens and your parents. School season is comming up and a very very very profitable time. Stop shopping there altogether I'm sure that will make a statement.
I think the policy at the HM is wrong. I been to the mall many times and I had no trouble with the kids.
The kids do spend money at the stores. Sure there will be an occasional problem but don't ban all kids for a problem caused by a few.
I think the teens should contact the ACLU (American Civil Liberties Union ) and let them speak on behalf of the teens. I think the ACLU can convince the HM not to ban teens without parents.
Good luck on your petition.
WELL YEAH I DONT AGREE WITH THIS BECAUSE THEY WANT ALL THESE VIOLENCE TO STOP WITH TEENS IN SCHOOL BUT THEY ARE BANNING KIDS LIKE US TO GO IN THE MALL THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A ADULT ACCOMPANY US I DONT LIKE THAT. MARK YOU ARE BEING RACIST TOWARDS PUERORICAN.IM PUERTORICAN AND I DONT LIKE WHAT ARE U SAYING THAT NO ONE SHOULD GO IN THE MALL WITH LAST NAMES THAT END WITH A OR EZ THAT RACISM SO DONT START THAT. I THINK THAT THEY SHOULD DIDNT DO THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE TRYING TO END VIOLENCE AND THE VIOLENCE IS JUST GOING TO KEEP GOING UP EVERYTIME ESPECIALLY WITH TEENAGERS
this is so stupid. by taking us out of the mall we have no place to go. so kids are gonna end up on the streets. And people who can leagaly drive can't go to the mall. the stores where teens go to shop are stores that adults dont even go in to. so how can we be intimadating and scaring away customers? i think this is messed up and wont work. they let them shop in places that you can go in to from the out side but what is stoping them from going in to say target and in to the mall? and what about when 4:00 comes and people are there how will they make sure every one that is under 18 is with a parent or out of the mall?
It's sad that some people think that if they can't go to the mall they have no where else to go in life to hang out. On the other hand I spent a good amount of time as a teenager at malls so I can relate to the disappointment. It's too bad there are some bad people who ruin it for the rest.. it's really no surprise the mall wants to do this. Either way -- good luck!
I think people of all ages should be able to go to the mall i will and still go to the mall whether im 18 or not!I dont like this new law i think this is bull **** i think this is wrongto do to people just becouse there not 18 that is messed up i personaly think that the mall will not have alot of people now all the kids will be on the street get in to trouble u guys just want to sit on there lazy ass and not do **** this will lose you more money people dont realy like this idea it is gay to do to us teens u like money right so dont in fors this new law i will go to the eastfied mall and they will over run you i remember when i went to the mall i loved it you tack that from us u will have problembs i hate this i will protes against this till it is stopped i will keep pro testing till this ofle thing is stopped people you will lose a lot
LOTmoney i will mack sher that u sufer to you mack us sufr we mack u sufer i hate all this i hate u all i think you took all of our trust away pluse our right to shop and spend our money you will not here the end of this it is messed up to do to people just cause you dont want to watch us pluse mack sure we are safe you discose meso much i will mack a big deal about this i hate youso muchi hate yahle you fag hore
Kids?! The Mall should focus on the real problem: Puerto Ricans! Mall security should check IDs outside, and not allow anyone with a last name that ends in "a" or "ez" to go in.
As soon as the rule is in effect, the Holyoke Mall is going to see the difference; however, not in a good way. I'm surprised the stores inside the mall aren't going against the HM Administration. Most of the companies spend millions of dollars a year adverstising to thier main audience: Teenagers. Even if the rule is enforced, I'm sure it won't last long. Bax and O'Brien are awesome, and you know this rule is lame.
I know all teens love to hang out with their freinds and stuff like that so I dont think that you would want your parints saying the wrong thing at the wrong time. Likewise teens can be very responisabel and doing this will discrimanat this felling and cause them to do very dumb things like(your thoughts here).So that is why we should work together to stop this takeover of what we use as a pasttime and a way of life (for some of us).Besides do eney of us here have any thing better to do?LOL:)
Unless you are 18 you have no real rights. Since your on private property you can be arrested for tresspassing.
I think the mall is correct in banning individuals under 18 without a parent.
There is not much you can do, and the petition will not work. When you young punks start acting responsible then you will be treated as an adult.
The cops will be at the mall in force. I'll see you at the booking desk at the HPD. Tell your parents to bring bail money! LOL
I think this is wrong because you people now that we have no where to hang out that is what the mall is for.When the kids were going you was making to much money that is ****ing wrong we are going to be in the streets
If this isn't "biting the hand that feeds you," then I don't know what is! It seems a bit ignorant to blame young people for the financial problems that the mall is experiencing, especially when these problems are more likely the fault of poor management and a bad economy. I hope this idea fails miserably and people begin to realize how irrational their fear of kids really is.
Age groups should not be targeted but rather individuals who cause trouble should be held responsible. Ban trouble makers not teens.
Keep in mind that there are businesses that thrive on teen attendance, what of their opinions.
I still remember the first time I was allowed to go to the mall with my friends. I spent a lot of my teenage years spending my first paychecks there. I think that the mall is a safe place for teens to go. The mall is just pushing them out into the streets. I think that groups of teens who are being disruptive should be removed, but don't punish our youth!
How fast adults forget.The powers that be at the Holyoke Mall never congregated at certain spots in their youth. What more can we take away from this generation? Their last SAFE haven away from home where they can meet, socialize,and grow has been deleted from their lives. I am in my late 50's and am appalled at the action being taken by the Holyoke Mall. Perhaps if your Security were trained properly and did their job the FEW young people who are a problem would be removed. I personally will spend the extra money on gas and frequent the Ct. Malls.
I think one of the major points in all of this is that most children start working at age 16. One of the major employers of teens 16-18 years old is the Holyoke Mall. Are these children going to need their parents to stand next to them in the Gap while they fold down the denim wall? And okay maybe the mall is going to issue some sort of pass to those teenagers that are employees, but what about when they get off of work and want to go shopping, are they going to need their parents to meet them there in order to do so? I can understand the mall wanting to provide a safe shopping environment, however, this is not really the correct way to do so. If anything make the rule under 16. Children under 16 shouldn't have money to spend anyways so they are most likely just there to hang out.
First they take away our right to independantly shop or spend money, what is next? We should not have to suffer for those out there who choose to destroy the simple pleasures of all of us. Rather than banning all citizens under the age of 18, they should inforce stricter security. But of course they can't do that. This would theoretically loose the mall more money. In reality the holyoke mall will loose a majority of their profit by loosing most of their top costomers.
Well I know there are many problems with Holyoke. But as a share holder of many of the companys that own a a store in the mall I'm appalled. I know that many of the young people don't buy a lot of goods at any one time at the mall, however most do purchase an item from one or more of the many restaurants. I do realize this is a privately owned mall so they can ban whom ever they decide to, But we do not have to patronize. As of this moment the Holyoke mall has lost my business. First the young people are banned, next the old people will be banned for walking early in the morning (after all they don't purchase much either). Rogalski Can make all the policy's he'd like but we certainly don't have to shop there. If things happen the way they should establishments will be forced to close (due to lack of income) and Rogalski will be fired. Dictators are always overthrown. One last thought All the young people that are banned now will be vauled customers soon and they will remember this and take their dollars elsewhere!
Teens and their families need to use their economic influence to change this decision. Stop shopping at HM and make sure you tell the store owners between now and Sept 8th that you intend to stop shopping there, and THEN DO SO. Even if you have to shop at another mall that has the same rule, HM will get the message if their business and foot traffic decreases by 50%. Teens, organize your parents!
Why wait..show your displeasure now. Stop going to HM today. Spend your back to school $$$ elsewhere. Hit 'em where it hurts and what they understand..the bottom line!
It is not the responsibility of the Holyoke Mall to take on the burdens of the Town of Holyoke to provide a hang-out for teens. The mall is technically a private place, not a public place. (And I assume the roller skating rink had nothing to do with the owners of the Holyoke Mall either. Why are you kids blaming them?) Maybe the Town of Holyoke needs to look at providing a teen center. It is their responsibility to handle the teen situation, if it is anyone's. Maybe some of the kids should get together and approach the town instead of whining to the mall.
Teens could get together and hang out at one another's homes, couldn't they? That's what my boys do. I wouldn't let them waste their time at the mall every weekend, talking and hanging around, flirting with girls they don't know. That's just a recipe for trouble. Parents need to provide a place in the home for teens to hang out where they feel comfortable with their friends. Every group of teens has one or two kids with a home that's fun to hang out in. Maybe they could actually DO something, like play pool or gin rummy in someone's basement.
By the looks of the poor writing and filthy language, it looks like a lot of you should spend more time at home studying and less time at the mall. (I mean the mistakes besides the IM and text messaging lingo.) Get your priorities straight. If you don't study now and straighten up your act, you'll have no money to shop when you're old enough to go to the mall without Mommy, because nobody will hire you.
this is crazy. what's next, six flags or the movie theater!? seriously. if teens under 18 are allowed to drive, pay insurance, have jobs, why can't they go to the mall on a friday or saturday night? teens are expected to be responsible, how are they becoming responsible if they have to walk around the mall with mommy & daddy?
BY THE WAY GUYS, THIS WAS ON NATIONAL FOX NEWS ALONG WITH THE LONDON BOMBINGS ON THE TICKER TAPE AT 6:45A ON THE MORNING OF JULY 14TH.
I think its an outrage that the owners of the mall did not come up with this idea years ago. For the amount of money teens spend on anygiven friday and saturday night is still less than the amount of trouble they cause...It's about time...
I am a 50 year old mother with two grown children who is not directly affected by this decision and I am still outraged. This is a mass action because they say there has been increasing bad behavior by some teens. Hire the extra security to throw out the bad ones. LET THE GOOD ONES STAY. How will our young people learn to be responsible if you don't let them show you that they are. I thought in this country we were all innocent until proven guilty.
wow wicked dumb yeah im going to have my mommy walk around the mall with me .. NOT! dude FUCK YOUR CREW your going to lose sooooo much bussiness maybe you should think twice about what your doing .. yeah #673 is right are they like afraid to go to the mall with big groups of teenagers?no ones parents are going to want to watch there kids shop thats so dumb ..im not listening to this rule so YOU LOSE!
Wow, this is not fair at all.. no one wants to go shopping with there parents.. would you rather us be at the mall not causing trouble.. then out on the streets getting into lots of trouble and doing drugs and the girls getting pregnant at a young age.. teenagers don't have anywhere to hang out anymore.. the rollar skating places are all gone.. I think if you go through with this, then the holyoke mall is going to lose a lot business and i don't think the holyoke mall will be open long if you do this.. i think if this goes through you'll be making the biggest mistake of your life and teenagers will get in alot of trouble.. thank you
that is true with the saying gay,nigga and reatarded. the adults wont take us seriously. this is a very unfair rule to make. it is discriminating againt teens. u will loose alot of money by going this and it will only being mobs of angry teens outside the mall screaming and vandelizing everything they see until they can go back in.i cannot belive society these days.if this does occur there will be long lines to get into the mall and by then people wont want to enter and just go to a diffrent place and shop and spend their cash.i kno what the kids do at the mall and all they do is hang around the arcade. and that is what an arcade is for.children. with out them its bankrupt. so if u do go on with this law. u will loose alot of stores and costumers because im sure all the schools will know about this and refuse to go to this mall and they'll go to the eastfield mall.
how is this not age discrimination? in any case, the mall is pretty much the only place that kids 18 yrs and under can go WITHOUT an adult. if you kick the kids out of the mall who knows what they'll end up doing instead. if they're having issues perhaps they should hire more security guards...or is raising the employment rate a bad thing as well?
This is ridiculous because how are they going to know how old each and every person is going into the mall? If they card everyone there will be crazy long lines and people will just be like screw this im not waiting and go somewhere else
i think that that is pretty stupid becuase a lot of people like hanging out at the mall like i mean. theres no where else to go.. and now u have to have a grownup with you.. thats pretty stupid.. ii mean u probley wanna go to hang out with your friends not with ur friends and u mom or dad or soemone or theirs...
The mall is geared for teens. And If you take the teens out of the mall, then income will decrease because your cutting out 80% of the population of people who go to the mall. You need us like a fat kid needs cake!
This mall can't close...even tho I live in Miami...I used to go to the holyoke mall a lot. Holyoke mall introduced me to hanging at the mall and terrorizing people there. They cannot do this! ='[
this is the most ridiculous thing i have EVER heard of. who ever even thought of this new rule is absolutely dumb. the mall is supposed to be a place where friends 18 AND UNDER can go to be social, hang out, and just do regular shopping on their own. kid 18 and under DO NOT need their mommies and daddies by their side as they shop. expecially when kids turn 16-17 years old and get their drivers licnese. most teens drive to the mall. this is stupid, the mall will loose ALOT of money by doing this.
if the mall closes i dont know what im gunna do they already took out the chiopee skating rink..... the mall is the only other place to hang out. this is ridiculous if u cant go to the mall n shop with your friends that how all the stores get there bussiness is teenagers. teenagers dont wanna go to the mall with their parent everyweekend and the parents dont want to be goin everyweekend either. if this goes through your going to lose soooo much business. and then ur gunna open back up to everyone so u dont have to close the mall down... teenagers are the only reason why its still open. its honestly a ****ing gay rule... why would you guys wanna lose 90% of your business... seriously
this is crazy. i know some people may cause problems at the mall but that doesn't mean everyone should be punished for this. talk about taking away our rights.
wow way to be a bunch of total @$$HOLES. bcuz of ur idiocy ur going to lose thousands upon thousands of dollars and ur gonna come crawling back to us for ur profits back. we own u.
OMG that's stupid..what are the people security gaurds gunna do, beat us? Why just on friday and Saturday?It's just the same as any other day..wow.. that's messed up
