they shouldnt be able to ban kids that are old enough to drive to the mall themself they dont need a parent to bring them y should a parent have to come i mean seriously this rule is effin crazy it will never work i mean what are they gonna stand at the door and say u don't have a parent nope sorry you cant come in. YEA RITE like that will ever work i mean come on you could still have a parent bring you into the mall and then you and your friends can go off and shop by yourself then your parents can go shoppin in their stores i mean even if they do make that rule WHICH WOULD SUCK there are so many ways around it it will NEVER work im not goin with my mom peace out and oh yea the guys at the mall is on CRACK!
This is a poorly thought out plan by Mall representives, and is not necessary for 15 and above teens; this age group, who at least half of the mall's stores focus on luring in with their music, style - sales persons mirrowing them, are the shoppers. As a parent, I have no desire to go into those stores and would rather my son/daughter go in there with friends to pick out their clothing; anything inappropriate, I take it back myself. How ironic it is that they decided to implement these new rules after school has started; I echo another who responded - to boycot the mall. There are plenty of outlets which cost less with same brands, where a parent would not have to listen to the music, and could actually hold a conversation with thier I would agree with the guidelines for children under the age of 14, but that should be for supervision at all times in the mall; for thier own safety. Yes, I go to the mall with my teens; we splinter off and meet up; but I do not want to, nor do they want me to go with them every time they want to shop.
They Think This Change Will Bring In Older people And make up for the porfit loss .. which i dont think will happen . . .plus who wants to go to the mall with ther parents .. and parents are going to put more restrictions on their childs spending limit ...
This new rule is ridiculous....the amount of revenues these kids bring to the mall should allow them to shop freely. It's persecuting an entire group of people for a few individual's actions.
i dont want the 18+ rule to take effect, so im signing this. but the rest of you should just go somewhere else on the weekends. im sure half of you dont even go to the mall more than once a week. get a life
This is discrimination against young people. You will not only be losing revenue from these teens, but you will also lose revenue from those of us who are over the age of 18 because of your discriminatory practices.
the reason for sept 9,is not to interfere with back to school sales. tell your parents to shop elsewhere
for your school needs. that will get them good.
I think this is stupid, im 17 years old im old enough to have a drivers licence but im not old enough to go to the holyoke mall without my mommy that ridiculous
kim-17
this is rediculous! i mean, i was just about to let me go to the mall w/o her(im 12) and now u cant go w/o ur parent until ur 18! that is so stupid. c'mon ppl. and the ppl doing this said they would get more money, WRONG! the parents won't let their children buy alot, so thats less money. its so gay
Come september school starts up and friday night is when all the kids go to hang out and actually have time. The older people should not be afraid to shop because we are there...they shouldnt even be shopping in the same stores as us anyway. The mall is the one place we can hang out walk around and have a good time and don't NEED to spend money.
A law is only as goood as the way it is inforced. And this law is never going to work and it is abserd for the mall to even put this law into effect. They are ruining the mall for basically there largest target market because no kid wants to go to the mall with there parents i mean its a place where they cna go and chill and shop. And just becuase of a couple of bad seeds we all have to suffer and that is not fair they should reconsider there plan of attack of reducing the mayhem that has plagues its building as of yet because this is the wrong way to deal with this issue. They will loss alot of money if this is put into effect as well and i doubt and store owners can afford that at all.
malls a great place for ppl to shop and by new things!
i couldnt live without it(maybe i could but im trying to make this sound good)
lol
umm....i by just about all my clothes there.....great palace!!
This is a really ridiculous idea. I go to the mall probably every friday, and spend my money that I work for, and I'm 17, if they do this they will lose a large portion of their business.
thats a real smart idea? how are they gonna monitor that? isn't the mall a public place? i'm sorry but when i need to go buy clothes i'm gonna do it when i need too, and i dont need my mommy or daddy with me. i pay for my own clothes thank you and i drive to the mall myself. therefore i have a right just like everyone else. so lets cut the crap and start being realistic here. if someone is causing a problem and needs to be kicked out of the mall, than kick them out or call their parents or let security handle it. not punish everyone else for some irresponsible people's mistakes. and isn't that called discrimination? sounds like it huh? yeah...its a bad idea. if i need to go there, i'm going there anytime i want. peace.
I have nothing against teens in general. I just can't stand the losers that have no social life or athletic ability and therfore have to roam the mall for entertainment.
Steve Socow hit the nail on the head, the mall is PRIVATE PROPERTY. They have no obligation to be babysitters for children of lazy, irresponsible parents. Some teens are well behaved, some even have more money to spend than I do, but it is the few who can't behave in public who have ruined the malls.
The malls are NOT "supposed to be a place where you can meet up with friends and possibly buy something." Malls are there to sell merchandise and make money, NOT entertain you. If you want a place to wander around, meet your friends and possibly buy something, hang out in a park, or on the local hipster street. Oh, by the way Mr. Bennet. Since teens 18 years or younger don't have any legal rights as adults, the mall is NOT infringing on their right to be free in this country. What about MY rights (I am an adult) to take my son shopping in SAFETY, free from gangs of rude and beligerent children? I whole heartedly approve of this action.
Hello Im 22 years old and I think the Holyke Mall is going about this all wrong. What they should do is have a few dozen patrollmen and have them escort out all of the bad seeds that might swear or cause trouble and ask them to leave. Leave the well behaved kids alone. I used to go to shop by myself when I was unber 18, if I was asked to leave because I wasnt 18 I would feel really bad. It's not fair to everyone, think about it.
the mall is a great place for teens to shop with their friends. why stop that and ruin one of the only places that we actually have to hang out? theres no harm being done by teens shopping.
This is gay. this is the only place where we can go and hang out with our friends without are parents there. We need our privacy. well u should think about doing this. this is so gay. well i hope that u no that ur gunna lose a lot of buisness. so its ur fault. now where r we gunna hang out with our friends. well will find somewhere better then having to hang with our parents.
i think kids should have the freedom to shop alone or with friends. its fun to go to the mall with friends and shop theres not much else to do and its not fun having your parents hanging around please do not do this you will lose my buisness
Stop complaining about this parents. Poor you, now you might actually have to watch your kids instead of just taking the easy way out and dropping them off. How about taking some responsibility and show your kids some guidance. Maybe they won't grow up to be in a gang.
this is nonsense teens under 18 shoudla hve the ability to go to mall no matter what time . they go to hna gout with their friends,shop,have fun away from their parents and everything else. you cant take htat away from them.Half of teens today have jobs( as i do myself ) in which they dont get out of work until maybe 5-7 at night.The last thing that teens 15-17 want to do is go to the mall with their friends and ahve to be "escorted" by their parents. its ridiclous. The malls get most of their money from the teens these days and the stores that is targested for teens are going to go down in business only becuase you took away their only time to go to the mall and ahve fun. If you take away the mall after 4 pm for teens they are only going to go to other places and cause even more problems and get into other things. If you do, do this ... the mall will be just about bare on friday & saturday nights. and you'll regreat making this ridiclous move.
steve i am 16 and would also like to shop in peace on a friday night. And if you say just go with your parents then how would you like me saying to you " go with your parents". What makes me less of a person than you? I should be able to buy that cd or eat at taco bell without being with my parents. I mean i can drive anywhere i want but i cant go shopping at the mall even though i am a respectable citizen?
the mall is a place wher kids go to meet up with friends. by taking away this your taking away kid's fun. come people cause trouble but that doesn't mean you should punish everyone for this.
why dont you just kick out the trouble peolpe and then let the other people that know have to behave?? you can drive and you cn get a job but you cant go to the mall wow
we have nothing else to do.. this is a "free state".. some of us are to young to get jobs..and we cant get full time jobs untill were older..seriously..think of how much buisness ur gonna lose..ur better of hiring a few more police or something.
I think that is notfair because when i go to the mall i go to stay 8 O'clock because i go to video games and that not fair that the kids can't go to the mall at 4 O'clock
Hey morons the mall is a PRIVATE place not a PUBLIC place. They can do whatever they want and it's NOT discrimination. I hope all malls follow suit and the mall can once again be a place where you can shop in peace and not worry about getting stabbed.
this is bull .. now like kida are gonna have nothing to do cause of this stupid law! now their gonna be breaking laws even worse! omg i hate this law..
I think your making a wrong choice.Your not going to make as much money by doing this.Sone kids that are under 18 might shop there everyday SHOP not hang out.You cant punish all of us when it isnt everyone.I dont go to the mall to much,but i think its a bad choice.I have alot of friends who go to the mall to SHOP so you dont have to punish them.And I dont think the kids at the mall are "scaring" away the adults.Everyone should have the right to shop at the mall at any age.
The stores will gain business by banning the teens without parent's.
Teens don't have that much money to spend. It is nickel and dime compared to adult shoppers
The malls are not a dumping ground for teens who's parent's don't care what their kids do.
I will do my shopping at the holyoke mall when the teen ban takes effect.
thats ridicules...not fair ...your going to loose tons of money by doing that....hire secutertiy...just cuz some kids are stupied dosnt mean all are....thats so stupied and if u do it then i hope you loose a lot of money!!!
This is crap! The HOlyoke Mall probably gets the most business from kids who og and spend there allowance and stuff. They will lose a ton of business cause who wants to walk aruond the mall with your mom or dad following you around. Its not all of our fault that some kids don't behave in the mall. We all shouldn't be punished for something we didn't do. If this stupid thing happens im not goin ot the holyoke mall.THAT GUYS MUST BE ON SOMETHING!
I'm sorry, but what ****ing idiot thought of this plan...how can you tell people under 18 they can't go to the mall...they prob. bring in the most sales and now the holyoke mall will become dead...way to go retards
thats ridicules...not fair ...your going to loose tons of money by doing that....hire secutertiy...just cuz some kids are stupied dosnt mean all are....thats so stupied and if u do it then i hope you loose a lot of money!!!
I don't agree that teens aren't going to be allowed on weekend nights. If the mall has enough money in their budget for extra security for the doors, then maybe it could be used elsewhere without the new policy being implemented. On the other hand, after reading some of these petitions maybe these teen's time is better spent learning to spell.
I think this policey
is not fair because I like to go to the mall whit my 16 year old sister and her friends.We never caused any trouble all we did was shop bye food or walk around for stuff the people who made them do this policey should be kicked out all of the malls .And go to the movies or somewhere else wher they wont cause trouble.
i think that we all should't have to to pay the price if it was only a few people.i think that the mall should be for everybody and i think that that this is not far for everybody else.
people under 18 can be just as responsible as 18 years olds or older & friday & saturday nights are the best times for teens to "hang at the mall." it isnt fair to a lot of people & think of how many teens under 18 will boycott the holyoke mall because of this...
i think tat that is wrong to let no kids in the mall ulese they are with an adult older than 18.you people are dummasses you should of just kiked those people
out of the mall and not letthem come back in.
I am 44yrs old, and if I do not feel like taking my son to the Mall because he wants to shop then I ask my teeaged licensed daughter to take him. I guess this will not be the case now. I remember being 15 and hanging out at the Mall with my friends. Guys, ice cream, Guys, arcade, Guys.....So now if I take him to the Mall to shop will I have to hold his hand?
To all people that are crying about this and "don't know where to go." I have a few suggestions for you: How about you get a job, or maybe read a book, or study. You all are going to turn into useless individuals that are just going to live off of state dollars, by being a welfare Mom, or living off of disablity. I can't wait until September 9th.
Say no this pitiful attempt to deprive our children of the right to be free in our own country. I will under no circumstance shop at that mall again. Let our $$ do our talking for us. I also suggest we submit this petition to the mayor to prevent any store in they city from discriminating against the children of this city anymore. Justice will prevail!!!
You shouldn't have to have a parent with you! It's a public place! Sure, some teens cause trouble, but you shouldn't punish all of the rest!
I am a mom of 5 children. The youngest two being 12 and 14; and I am Absolutely appauled that our youth is being treated like 2nd class citizens!My 14 yr old daughter goes to the mall to shop. If by chance she sees a friend or two she, they might stop and chat for a bit or even get a bitte to eat. My son however does like to go to the mall to see his friends. Since Rock n' Rollerskate had closed, its the only way for him to see his friends. Besides what are they supposed to do with the arcade when all the kids are gone! He even gpes to see his cousins girlfriend when hes bored, rather than start trouble! Im sure children pretten and teen do act up a bit...but why do they all have to be at fault. Is it that Ingleside really just wants to save on sucurity budget by eliminating all of the kids with out parents so that they won't have to protect the mall! I watch over my kids by teaching them right from wrong, AND WHEN I THINK THE ARE OLD ENOUGH,THEY ARE OLD ENOUGH! I do not however watch them by sitting at the next table as them, watching them and there 12-14yr old freinds talk. SO as you can tell my family will be shopping at the Eastfield MAll if Ingleside follows throughnwith all this crap!
Im signing this to say that its understandable that the Mall is concerned about gang fights and such, but some on- thats maybe 5% of teen shoppers, and think of how much money we scrimp and save and work for to spend in your mall- who over the ago of 18 spends anything in the Icing, Claire's, Rave, Deb, and stores like that?
... Please sign this, maybe itll make a bit of difference
Kids aren't allowed to go to the mall so what are they supposed to do? The article on masslive today puts it all into perspective, Mr. William J. Rogalski clearly admits that it's about money. Well at least it has "everyone's" best interest in mind. Namely Mr. Rogalski and his fat wallet.
Thank God someone has some common sense. I don't shop at the Holyoke Mall because there are too many kids running around. If this goes into effect I will start. So if anything this will bring in more business.
I think it is unfair that people have decided to deny people under 18 the right to enter the mall. "older people are intimidated?" if they really want to go into a store that badly they can go. It's a mind over matter thing. Don't punish us just because they are not mature enough to walk into a store.
To the Pyramid Employee, we are still able to go into the stores with entrances from outside the mall, such as Filenes, JCPenny, etc.
Anyway.. Its really awful that everyone has to be punished for other kids immature behavior. I dont go to the mall every weekend, but when I do go there, I like to go shopping with my friends, not with my parents. I really hope this will work because I am soo sick of being punished for something I didnt do.
I think it's completely ridiculous. Stores are going to lose business because of the lack of teenagers. Stores like Spencers, Rave, Forever 21, Journeys etc. The people that don't go to the mall don't go because of teenagers, they don't go because of long lines, the bustle, and crazy rude shoppers (that aren't teenagers).
We all know that they are only doing this becasue of all the gang fights and gangs hanging out in the mall and making it an unsafe enviroment for all other shoppers. And i think it is abserded that we all have to suffer with this law just becuase there are a bunch of Gangs and mainly African Americans boys that are thinking there all big and bad and causing trouble in the mall. And only the blacks will be getting profiled anyways so this should just be for the blacks and gang memebers.
I think that the mall is making a mistake by making teens have an "escort" at the mall. I know that when I go to the mall I go to shop with friends and not cause problems or make a scene. The few kids that are doing that should be the ones being punished but not everyone else. Also, I think certain stores are going to have a problem with this because they are going to loose a lot of their business on the weekends now with this new rule. I'm not saying it’s a bad thing to have to go to the mall with your parents but on the weekends kids like to hang out with their friends and have time to themselves so they go to the mall to shop and hang out which is a pretty harmless thing if they aren’t disturbing anyone. Kids aren’t going to want to walk around with their parents. So, I think this is going to compel teens away from the mall and possible force them to go to different places over the weekend that’s only going to create more problems than if they are to just go to the mall and shop with their friends.
I live in Longmeadow and hate shopping at the mall. Most of the teens smell pretty bad and the language they use is just foul. Kids from the Springfield and holyoke are pretty scummy. Some look like homeless bums looking for a handout. Run the little rodents out of the mall.
I really believe that this is unfair to do to the 16 - 18 yr olds. Punish the ones that lay on the floor, run through the mall and are disruptive. I can honestly say that I have seen these things. But don't punish the entire group of young adults. I will not be shopping at the Holyoke Mall after September 9th and I hope that a lot of people boycott the mall. I don't understand how you can say that this won't turn into profiling. It most definetly will. How can it not? If my daughter walks into the mall alone or with a friend and they look over 18, will they get stopped? Maybe, but it will become profiling. The guards will have to stop every person entering the mall to check id's in order for it not to become profiling.
some people who are signing here area gainst the petition...they are the scum ofthe area..."now all he little punks can hang out on your ghetto street corner..." THe mall is stoppingall teens from going to the mall, not just the ones who cause trouble. Rod, jack, nick you seem to be extremly ignorant.
even though i'm 20 i still think that is retarded we should do everything we can to make that not possible it is so rediculus. i do not want to have to show my ID seriously
Oh nos!!!! The wannabe punks and goths and ****s wont be able to go to the mall to play teh DDR's....OH NO!!!! Leave the arcade and the mall to people who can actually contribute to the economy. Oh yeah, either way there are like 20+ ways to get into the mall....without anyone really noticing.
