Save the Virtual Console from premature death!
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Started: July 20, 2009, 5:44:58 pm
Target: Increase VC support in quanity and quality.
Supporters:

189
Goal:

1,000,000
Goal Progress:

1% Complete
Status

Active
After the devastating Virtual Console week on July 20, 2009 (Which had NO Virtual Console support), I've decided to start a petition on the Virtual Console because I care about the Virtual Console and don't want it to suffer the same faith as Toonami with Cartoon Network. I love the Wii and this is one of the main reasons why I love it, the Virtual Console gives Wii owners with Internet access the oppertunity to play classic games such as Super Mario Bros., Sonic the Hedgehog, Super Metroid, Bomberman 94', The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Samurai Showdown II, and The Last Ninja.

However, starting in November, 2008, the Virtual Console started to go downhill in not just quanity, but also quality. This is mainly caused by one-game week, which we all dreaded, but we never thought it would end up this bad with no Virtual Console game this week (WiiWare launch doesn't count). Since then, Hudson Soft has temporarily cancel Virtual Console support (It resumed Virtual Console support thought), sub-par weeks were common, and Earthbound came into legal issues, which could prevent Virtual Console release and forever dash all hopes for the series continuing outside Japan. It may even cause the unwanted removal of Ness and Lucas in Super Smash Bros. 4.

Also contributing to it's potential premature death is the seemingly unreverseable issues of licensing games. Only one licensed games, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles was released on the Virtual Console and then that game was critically panned for it's difficulty. No one knows if we'll ever see an decent licensed Virtual Console game again.

Making licensing issues even more of a problem is that Rare games are basicilly banned from the Virtual Console, except the Donkey Kong Country series. In fact, we'll be lucky to even see Donkey Kong Country 64 on the Virtual Console.

Another problem is copyright issues, which Earthbound has. Because the game has so many similar songs and some similar look-alike to people, getting the game on the Virtual Console is difficult to do. And strangely, I think Earthbound release on the Virtual Console could determind the Virtual Console faith. If they do release Earthbound on the Virtual Console, the Virtual Console will be safe for a long while and we'll be able to see the Virtual Console we've hoped or. If we don't ever see Earthbound on the Virtual Console, not only will we never see the Mother series outside of Japan again and the removal of Ness and Lucas in Super Smash Bros. 4, it will also mean the premature end of the Virtual Console.

We should also note that defunct or bankrupt video game companies will also be difficult to release on the Virtual Console. Two such examples are the Mortal Kombat series and Turok series for the Nintendo 64. The Mortal Kombat series is under Midway, which could be dead by now and Turok series was formally owned by Acclaim, which is not defunct and the series is owned by Touchstone, which means the game has licensing issues, since Touchstone is owned by Disney.

Another problem is re-releases of old games on the DS and Wii platforms, and both mentioned are excellent games (Despite me not owning them.). Two examples are Kirby Super Stars and Chrono Trigger, both universally acclaimed and they are SNES excluisive! However, since the DS remakes are now out, it's questionable if we're ever going to see either of those games.

Adding to the problem with Nintendo 64 games is that most third-party games requires you to have the Controller Pak to save your game, which has no confirmed support on the Virtual Console. If Nintendo don't work around these issues, many if not all third-party games will never see the light and day of the Virtual Console.

Another unsupported Nintendo 64 accessory is the VRU, which Hey You! Pikachu! uses. There might a solution to this (Use Wii Speak instead), but Nintendo is unlikely to release this, due to lack of VRU.

The lack of Transfer Pak can also be to blame for the lack of Pokemon Stadium and Pokemon Stadium 2, which let's people play Pokemon Red, Blue (Green In Japan), Yellow, Gold, and Sliver from Pokemon Stadium 1 & 2.

The issues with release Nintendo 64 games makes Nintendo 64 games the most difficult to release.

And given Nintendo of America unpredictable Virtual Console releases, who knows when we'll see any games we want, let alone a schedule.

And let's not forget that unsupporting video games companies can also prevent releases. Such companies include EA Sports and Ubisoft.

And with the patchic update we've been reciving recently, game with any of the legal issues won't be the only one not receivng a release. Check out these games that may not have any issues being release, yet might not make it to the Virtual Console:

Nintendo Entertainment System:
Mega Man V
Mega Man VI
Skate or Die! (For North Americans, already available on the European and Japanese Virtual Console!)
1942
1943: The Battle Of Midway
Adventure Island II
Dr. Mario
Bomberman
Bomberman II
Adventure Island 2
Adventure of Lolo 3
Arkanoid
A Boy & His Blob: Trouble in Blobononia
Bad News Baseball
Bionic Commando
Bubble Bobble Part 2
Contra
Contra Force
Destiny of an Emperor
Devil World (In North America, Europeans and Japan already have this game on the Virtual Console.)
Double Dragon II: The Revenge
Dragon Warrior
Dragon Warrior II
Dragon Warrior III
Duck Hunt
Genghis Khan
Nintendo World Cup
Final Fanasty
Pro Wrestling
Mario Is Missing!
Maniac Mansion
Metal Gear
Nobunaga's Ambition II
Pac-Mania
Popeye (Still has licensing issues in North America, however, the Popeye series is under public domain in the rest of the world.)
Prince of Persia
Romance of the Three Kingdom
Snake's Revenge

TurboGrafx-16:
Castlevania: Rondo of Blood
Ys. III: Wanderers From Ys
Bomberman

Sega Genesis:
Sonic & Knuckles (Due to plan of an Xbox Live Arcade release)
Mega Man: The Wily Wars
ESWAT: City Under Seige (For North Americans, already on the European and Japanese Virtual Console)
Crackdown (Look above)
Strider
Earthworm Jim 2
Shanghai II: Dragon's Eye
Gynoug (In North America & Europe, already available in Japan.)
Atomic Runner (In North America & Europe, already available in Japan.)
Target Earth (In North America & Europe, already available in Japan.)
Warsong (In North America & Europe, already available in Japan.)
Castlevania: Bloodlines
Kid Chameleon
Out Run
Out Run 2019
OutRunners
Revenge of Shinobi
Rocket Knight Adventure
Sparkster
Splatterhouse 3
Vectorman 2
Virtua Racing

Super Nintendo Entertainment System:
Mega Man VII (My most wanted game to come on the Virtual Console)
Mega Man X
Mega Man X2
Mega Man X3
Final Fanasty IV
Final Fanasty VI
Final Fight 2
Final Fight 3
Romance of the Three Kingdom II
Romance of the Three Kingdom III: Dragon of Destiny
Mario Is Missing!
Wario's Wood
Rival Turf!
Tetris Attack
Mario Super Picross (In North America, Europeans and Japanese already have this on the Virtual Console.)
Super Mario Kart (In North America & Europe, Japanese already have it.)
Pilotwing
Actraiser 2
Breath of Fire
Mega Man Soccer
Captain Commando
Double Dragon IV: The Shadow Falls
Street Fighter Alpha II
Metal Combat: Falcon's Revenge
Nobunaga's Ambition: Lords of Darkness
Prince of Persia
Star Fox
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
Super Bomberman
Super Bomberman 2
Super Bonk
Super Mario All-Stars
Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World
U.N. Squadron
Yoshi's Cookie
Yoshi's Squadron
Ys II: Wanderers from Ys
Zombies Ate My Neighbors
Rocket Knight Adventure

Nintendo 64:
Pilotwing 64
Super Smash Bros. (In North America, Europeans and Japanese already have them.)
Mario Tennis
Bomberman Hero
Hey You! Pikachu! (Unless Nintendo uses Wii Speak on this game.)
Aerofighter
Beattles Adventure Racing
Bomberman 64 (1997 game)
Bomberman 64 (2001 game)
Bomberman 64: The Second Attack
Command & Conquer
Cruis'n World
Cruis'n Exotica
Dr. Mario 64
Castlevania 64
Castlevania 64: Legacy of Darkness
Mega Man 64
Earthworm Jim 3D
Clayfighter 63 1/3
Clayfighter 63 1/3 Sculptor's Cut
Excitebike 64
Mario Party
Mario Party 2
Mario Party 3
Quake II
Ridge Racer 64

Sega Master System:
Phanasty Star (In North America and Europe, Japanese already have this game on the Virtual Console.)
Shinobi (In North America and Europe, already available in Japan.)
Alex Kidd in Shinobi World
Golden Axe Warrior
Ms. Pac-Man
Ninja Gaiden
Out Run 3-D
Space Harrier 3-D
Wonder Boy III: The Dragon's Trap

Neo Geo:
Fatal Fury Special Edition
World Heroes II
World Heroes Jet
World Heroes Perfect
Samurai Showdown III: Blades of Blood
Samurai Showdown IV: Amakusa's Revenge
Samurai Showdown V
Samurai Showdown V Special
The King of Fighter '95
The King of Fighter '96
The King of Fighter '97
The King of Fighter '98
The King of Figher '99: Millennium Battle
The King of Fighter 2000
The King of Fighter 2001
The King of Fighter 2002: Challenge to Ultimate Battle
The King of Fighter 2003
SNK Vs. Capcom: SVC Chaos
Art of Fighting III - The Path of the Warrior
Fatal Fury 3: Road to the Final Victory
Metal Slug 3
Metal Slug X
Metal Slug 4
Metal Slug 5
Neo Bomberman
Panic Bomber

Think about it. If the Virtual Console is dead, then we have missed out on so many title, it's not even funny. Guys, we are in a terrible situation and we are losing the oppertunity to play many of the games that we grew up with or want to enjoy and the only way to preserve them is the Virtual Console. Look at the list again and you'll realize these games have no problem being released on the Virtual Console, yet they could still remain unavailable on any Nintendo systems permanently. Our childhood memories should be preserve by the Virtual Console and nobody wants to have to take there old video game systems just to play them.

To people who said "Well you can get them by Ebay or use ROMs", that is an poor excuse not to support the Virtual Console, Yes, I'm planning to use Ebay for my Sega Genesis and Super Nintendo Entertainment System, but some games you want are very expensive. Take for example, Earthbound. It needs to be release on the Virtual Console, but it has problems doing so, due to copyright issues. Nobody wants to be force to shell out $50-200 just to play Earthbound, it's way too expensive not to be released on the Virtual Console. And while I do use ROMs, I will buy the games I use as ROMs on the Virtual Console.

If you have a Wii connected to the Internet and want to play some old games that you don't have, there's no excuse not to support the Virtual Console.

And to people who thinks not having a Virtual Console anymore won't do much to the Nintendo Wii, think again. It is the primary source for entertainment for most hardcore gamers like me. If they cancel the Virtual Console without warning, the consequences will be devastating. Nintendo will lose most, if not all of there hardcore audience to Sony and Microsoft and start to lose money and eventually not be able to afford being an console manafacture anymore. They will become a third-party company like Sega and Atari and lose quality in there games. This can happen to Nintendo, but it hasn't happen yet, despite hardcore gamers ******** about Nintendo day and night. But it could happen.

Take for example, Cartoon Network. Remember when they used to be the best? Now they are losing audience, kids and adults due to canceling Toonami without any warning whatsoever. As a result, most fans (Myself included) were outraged and stopped watching Cartoon Network once and for all. In fact, they are less popular then ScyFy. That's a shocker, isn't it? And it wasn't just that. Over the course of four years leading up to the cancelation of Toonami, they have made many poor decisions, such as the critically hated new CN logo (Which I would defend) and bringing in live action shows.

Many former Nintendo fans will argue with me that Nintendo has already follow a similar path with Cartoon Network, maybe even worse to them then Cartoon Network, but that hasn't happen yet. They were far worse off during the Nintendo 64 and Gamecube days.

But despite this, if they do indeed cancel the Virtual Console without warning, this will be the first major migratation of hardcore gamers to the Microsoft and Sony console and we do not want that to happen.

People, now that you're done reading all this important stuff, it's time to stand together and fight for the ability to play some of our favorite games on the Virtual Console and be able to solve all issues with the Virtual Console. That way, we can finally have the Virtual Console we envision.

The Virtual Console is not dead yet, we still have hope that you'll finally be able to play your favorite games on the Virtual Console. If you want to voice your opinion on this and still care about the Virtual Console, join force and sign here to show that you care about the Virtual Console and want to see it's full potential.

(Picture coming soon.)
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Added by: Super Smash Bros. Fan on July 20, 2009, 6:35:22 pm
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Note: I have finally uploaded the picture that I promised.
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Added by: Super Smash Bros. Fan on July 29, 2009, 1:14:46 pm
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I've updloaded the Earthbound title screen for the SNES.




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Created July 27, 2009, 10:50:41 pm. 1 comments
Posted July 27, 2009, 10:50:41 pm


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Bryan Sanders692 said 1 week ago (verified)
I support this petition completely.
#189

Jason Chan said 12/20/09, 3:35 pm (verified)
I support this petition. I would like to mention that a number of the games that were originally listed have now been released on the virtual console though.
#188

captain eo said 11/20/09, 8:11 pm (verified)
I support this petition.
#187

Nicole Hundley said 11/20/09, 8:10 pm (unverified)
I support this petition. They will not discontinue final fantasy games i want those so when i have kids they will be able to play them to. They are taking away 8 games i love. I will try to find people to support this cause.Try this go to gamers sites and ask them to petition for this cause like gamespot.com cheats.com. Also final fantasy fans and other people who love those games see if u can find a site that loves those games and will sign this petition.
#186

John Lester said 09/26/09, 6:54 am (unverified)
I support this petition.
#185

Kurt Laninga said 08/24/09, 10:56 am (unverified)
I support this petition.
#184

WittyManOfStyle Nintendo Fan said 08/15/09, 5:59 pm (verified)
When I first heard of Virtual Console in 2006, I was blown away. I was thinking \"Holy crap, I can own my entire NES, SNES, and N64 collection on ONE system, and make a killing with my collection on eBay! Well, now its 2009 and instead of owning my 96 NES, 98 SNES, and 85 N64 games on Wii, I can only have 22 of my NES, 22 of my SNES, and 8 of my N64 games on Wii. This wouldn\'t be a problem if it was still getting 2-3 decent games per week, but now were getting 0-1 crappy games per week with the rare good game every once in a while. And recently, 2 week went by without ANY VC support. This is INSANE. Nintendo is sitting on a GOLD-MINE of classics, and keeps shoving crappy WiiWare games down our throats! (ok maybe 1 out of 10 WiiWare games is good). Still, there is no excuse. And about Earthbound, if Nintendo could bring it out in 1995 without copyright issues, then they can do it again. Until then, the Homebrew community will continue to curse at Nintendo while downloading illegal roms. And I\'ve heard many hackers say \"If Nintendo would get there freakin\' act together and give us the games we want, then we would PAY them. But since they don\\\'t, then we will get them for free\" Nintendo, if you don\'t want illegal roms downloaded, release more VC games, and you will cut down the illegal downloading by half.
#183

Ryan Chrouser said 08/07/09, 3:18 pm (unverified)
I support this petition.
#182

Chris only after e mail contact said 08/04/09, 4:14 pm (unverified)
I support this petition. Nintendo here in europe are alot of fans who really like the Virtual Console so please go on supporting it. Thank you.
#181

Robert Catron said 08/03/09, 7:43 am (unverified)
I support this petition.
#180

Matt Blankenship said 08/03/09, 6:03 am (unverified)
I am a huge fan of the Virtual Console, ive downloaded over 100 classic games off the service and want more, please dont cancel it, if Nintendo does, i will sell my Wii, please dont make me do that!
#179

Trever Burson said 08/02/09, 9:48 pm (verified)
I support this petition. VC was one of my main reasons I wanted the Wii. :3
#178

Arnaud Lépine said 08/02/09, 3:36 pm (unverified)
I support this petition.
#177

sean coyle said 08/01/09, 8:59 pm (unverified)
I support this petition.
#176

Pascaline Lavedrine said 08/01/09, 4:03 pm (unverified)
I support this petition.
#175

fio rousseau said 08/01/09, 2:19 pm (unverified)
I support this petition.
#174

Ely Bocalbos said 07/30/09, 9:11 pm (unverified)
I support this petition.
#173

Paul Trow said 07/30/09, 11:00 am (verified)
I support this petition.
#172

Jason Scott said 07/30/09, 4:18 am (unverified)
I support this petition. I too love the VC and don\'t want to see it end so soon.
#171

Jimmy bobett said 07/29/09, 2:20 pm (verified)
I support this petition.
#170