It's not that we lose games, it's HOW we lose them. Take the lead, conservative offense, prevent defense. Lloyd is Bill Martin's personal savior. Martin recently said that Lloyd shouldn't be fired over 1 bad season. We've had 5 straight years of 3, 4 and 5 losses. Lloyd has control over his coaches. The fact that we Herman and Malone are still on the coaching staff proves that Carr is incompetent and not deserving to coach this once respected program. UM is the laughinstock of college football.