ok, let's fet one thing straight people. Story of the Year no longer fall under the catergory of mainstream **** rock. Their new album is a harcore/metal album that really represents who they are. If you ever saw them live you would know that that just isn't who they really are. John Feldman produced that album, so blame him. Go out and buy "In the Wake of Determination" now. I know what I'm talking about. By the way, Green Day was never really a punk band. They were originally a post-grunge band, but slowly transitioned into the pop **** they are now. Real punk would be Minor Threat, Black Flag, the Subhumans, etc. Story of the Year isn't a mainstream **** band anymore!!!